Dmitri wrote:Unless he has a really well-established headlock, ...
GrahamB wrote:There's a few things I don't like about that clip - doing the hip throw from there is not as hard as he makes out. And he seems to put his hip too far through when he does it.Also, as Dmitri says the other guy has lots of counters - supplex would be the coolest, but a simple rear takedown would work, then once on the ground get out of the headlock.
Plus there's all the escapes from being on the bottom of judo side control where he finished at the end, although to be fair that position done well is a killer. Re Josh Barnett vs Dean Lister.
In terms of wrestling I think getting a 2 on 1 position with the hands is higher priority? Obviously not when punched are allowed.
johnwang wrote:Here is an example that if you can control his leading arm, you can take him down from there.
johnwang wrote:
In the above clip, when you wrap your opponent's leading arm (the arm closer to you), you can reduce a lot of his striking and grappling ability. This will make the rest of the fight to be as simple as just "your other free arm to deal with your opponent's other free arm".
No matter what style that you may train, should you treat
- to wrap your opponent's leading arm, and
- not to let your opponent to wrap your leading arm,
as your highest priority in your training? Your thought?
GrahamB wrote:Also, as Dmitri says the other guy has lots of counters - supplex would be the coolest, but a simple rear takedown would work, then once on the ground get out of the headlock.
In terms of wrestling I think getting a 2 on 1 position with the hands is higher priority?
GrahamB wrote: as Dmitri says the other guy has lots of counters - supplex would be the coolest, but a simple rear takedown would work,...
johnwang wrote:The "head lock hip throw" may exist in Judo, but it doesn't not exist in SC. The reason is simple.
The
- head lock is to "crash" your opponent's structure downward (or side way).
- hip throw is to lift your opponent's body upward.
It contradicts to each other.
You don't always need to use 2 on 1 to wrap your opponent's leading arm. You can use just 1 arm:
- downward parry,
- upward block,
you can get that arm wrapping. This will work on both the "uniform stance" and the "mirror stance".
Ian wrote:GrahamB wrote:Also, as Dmitri says the other guy has lots of counters - supplex would be the coolest, but a simple rear takedown would work, then once on the ground get out of the headlock.
The guy is supposed to end up bent over, ear to shoulder and with a twisted neck, so your suggested counters would be hard to pull off.
GrahamB wrote:Why not add this to SC?
GrahamB wrote: so as their arm wraps your head, you bend your knees, and go for a body lock, etc...
Fubo wrote:My highest priority as far as forward type hip throws go, if we're talking about a street fight, as oppose to competition, would be to enter the throw from the outside. It's a lot safer in terms of the opponents ability to strike you, and leaves you in a much safer position if the throw fails.
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