neijia_boxer wrote:Last but not least, Robert Smith (1974) makes a very intriguing remark about Grandmaster Yang Chengfu (楊 澄 甫): “During training he [Yang Chengfu] practiced the Single Whip for expansive power and Play the Guitar for contractive power, holding each statically for lengthy periods. He also moved repeatedly through Step Back and Repulse the Monkey (for moving the Qi up past the sacrum) and Step Forward, Deflect Downward, Parry and Punch.” So, schematically:
1. Single Whip [Dan Bian 單 鞭 = Kaizhan Gong 開 展 功, a type of Zhuang Gong]
2. Play the Guitar [Shouhui Pipa 手 揮 琵 琶 = Jincou Gong 緊 湊 功, a type of Zhuang Gong]
3. Step Back and Repulse the Monkey [Daonianhou 到 攆 猴]
4. Step Forward, Deflect Downward, Parry, and Punch [Jinbu Ban Lan Chui 進 步 搬 攔 捶]
So what to practice? I would suggest that simply depends on: a) to which school you belong, b) to the preferences of your teacher, and c) in the end, on your own gut feeling. What doesn’t make sense is to simply add the above lists up with the idea of ‘better safe than sorry’ and practice as much different postures as possible. Start with the favorite postures of your teacher, and later develop a taste of your own. My personal favorite is ‘Brush Knee, Twist Step,’ both without stepping or with stepping, and both using large expansive circles (kaizhan 開 展) or small contractive circles (jincou 緊 湊). You can also combine ‘Brush Knee’ with ‘Play the Guitar,’ as in the Routine (and suggested by Y. K. Chen), and alternate between them over and over. Anyway, pick your own favorite posture and get to work!
Bao wrote:So what to practice? I would suggest that simply depends on: a) to which school you belong, b) to the preferences of your teacher, and c) in the end, on your own gut feeling. What doesn’t make sense is to simply add the above lists up with the idea of ‘better safe than sorry’ and practice as much different postures as possible. Start with the favorite postures of your teacher, and later develop a taste of your own. My personal favorite is ‘Brush Knee, Twist Step,’ both without stepping or with stepping, and both using large expansive circles (kaizhan 開 展) or small contractive circles (jincou 緊 湊). You can also combine ‘Brush Knee’ with ‘Play the Guitar,’ as in the Routine (and suggested by Y. K. Chen), and alternate between them over and over. Anyway, pick your own favorite posture and get to work!
We usually study one movement from a form and try to work in similar ways as well. We have other movements and drills as well that are not in the long forms, but can be played with and developed in different ways.
One of my tai chi teachers only learned five movements from his teacher for the first two years. Two of the movements can be found in a tai chi form. He needed to learn the tai chi shenfa from these movements and also to use only those five movements to defend himself from any kind of attack. This is IMHO a good way to learn to not complicate the art too much, keeping it simple and rely on basic movements. The rest is refinement and variations. But in it's essence, it's not a such complicated art.
D_Glenn wrote:You of all people should know that "large expansive circles" and "small contractive circles" are piss-poor translations for kaizhan 開 展 and jincou 緊 湊 !
kaizhan 開 展 and jincou 緊 湊 are different kinds of Isometric strengths.
You have to seek, find, feel and develop a lot of strength in the Zhuang practices, so that when it comes time to apply you don't have to "use strength", it's intrinsic, and you can truly be effortless.
It takes a lot of Effort in Zhuang practices, in order to feel Effortless in a fight.
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shawnsegler wrote:S- cracks beer and puts up feet.
Bao wrote:I didn't comment the translation of the words. I commented the manner to play and explore different movements in the form. This thread is about JIBEN ZISHI, I don't give a damn how neija_boxer interpretes or understand the characters.
Bao wrote:But good for you I guess... Now you can go on and write another article on the absolute true meaning of these terms. From a bagua perspective of course.
lazyboxer wrote:shawnsegler wrote:S- cracks beer and puts up feet.
So when do you ever find time for training?
lazyboxer wrote:shawnsegler wrote:S- cracks beer and puts up feet.
So when do you ever find time for training?
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