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Daoist Cultivation

Postby D_Glenn on Tue Sep 16, 2008 5:05 pm

"9. 老子
老子者,名耳,字伯陽,陳人也。生於殷時,為周柱下史。好養精氣,貴接而不施。轉為守藏史。積八十餘年,史記云二百餘年,時稱為隱君子。謚曰聃。仲尼至周,見老子。知其聖人,乃師之。後周德衰, 乃乘青牛車去。入大秦,過西關。關令尹喜待而迎之。知真人也。乃強使著書,作《道德》上下經二卷。
The Old Master (Laozi)'s name was Er, his style was Boyang, and he was from the state of Chen. He was born during the Yin (Shang) dynasty and served as a scribe "under the pillar" under the Zhou dynasty. He liked to live from his own breathe's essence and knew how to acquire it without spending too much. Later, he became archivist and served for more than eighty years - the Shiji says, for more than two hundred years - and his contemporarians called him "the hidden nobleman". His posthumous name is Dan. Once, Zhongni (Confucius) went to Zhou and met Laozi. Confucius knew that Laozi was a wise man and accepted him as his teacher. Later, when the virtue of the house of Zhou vanished, Laozi mounted a chart, driven by a green-grayish ox. He traveled to the country of Great Qin, where he had to enter the Western Pass. The guardian of the pass, called Yin Xi treated him like a host because he knew that Laozi was a saint. Yin Xi forced Laozi to write down his teachings in a book with two chapters and the two parts about the Way and its Virtue."

[("...Laozi was said to be a contemporary of Confucius (551-479 BC). His surname was Li (李 "plum"), and his personal name was Er (耳 "ear") or Dan (聃 "long ear"). He was an official in the imperial archives, and wrote a book in two parts before departing to the West." -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laozi )]

"10. 關令尹
關令尹喜者,周大夫也。善內學。常服精華,隱德修行。時人莫知。老子西遊,喜先見其氣,知其真人當過。物色而遮之,果得老子。老子亦知其奇,為著書授之。後與老子俱遊流沙,化胡。服苣勝實。莫知其所終。尹喜亦自著九篇,號曰《關尹子》。
Yin Xi, the Guardian of the Pass was an official of the Zhou dynasty. He was versed in esoterical science and lived normally from the purest essences, but he guarded his virtue like a secret and didn't let anybody know of it. When Laozi traveled to the west, Xi already knew that he was an emanation and was aware that he would pass by. Because Laozi's holyness radiated many colors that covered him, Yin Xi could finally get the Old Master Laozi. Laozi himself also knew that Yin Xi was an extraordinary person, and therefore taught him his book. Later, both together traveled to the Moving Sands, converted the barbarians and made their life from eating lettuce. Nobody knows what finally became of them. Yin Xi himself also wrote a book in nine chapters, called "Master Yin of the Pass" (Guan Yin Zi)." -- http://www.chinaknowledge.de/Literature ... zhuan.html



("Laozi's relationship with the guardian of the western pass, named Yinxi (Wade Giles Yin Hsi), is the subject of numerous legends. It is Yinxi who asked Laozi to write down his wisdom in the traditional account of the Daodejing's creation. The story of Laozi transmitting the Daodejing to Yinxi is part of a broader theme involving Laozi the deity delivering salvific truth to a suffering humanity. Regardless, the deliverance of the Daodejing was the ultimate purpose of his human incarnation. Folklore developed around Laozi and Yinxi to demonstrate the ideal interaction of Taoist master and disciple.[35]

A seventh century work, Sandong zhunang ("Pearly Bag of the Three Caverns"), provides one account of their relationship. Laozi pretended to be a farmer when reaching the western gate, but was recognized by Yinxi, who asked to be taught by the great master. Laozi was not satisfied by simply being noticed by the guard and demanded an explanation. Yinxi expressed his deep desire to find the Tao and explained that his long study of astrology allowed him to recognize Laozi's approach. Yinxi was accepted by Laozi as a disciple. This is considered an exemplary interaction between Daoist master and disciple, reflecting the testing a seeker must undergo before being accepted. A would-be adherent is expected to prove his determination and talent, clearly expressing his wishes and showing that he had made progress on his own towards realizing the Tao.[36]

The Pearly Bag of the Three Caverns continues the parallel of an adherent's quest. Yinxi received his ordination When Laozi transmitted the Daodejing, along with other texts and precepts, just as Taoist adherents receive a number of methods, teachings and scriptures at ordination. This is only an initial ordination and Yinxi still needed an additional period to perfect his faith, thus Laozi gave him three years to perfect his Dao. Yinxi gave himself over to a full-time devotional life. After the appointed time, Yinxi again demonstrates determination and perfect trust, sending out a black sheep to market as the agreed sign. He eventually meets again with Laozi, who announces that Yinxi's immortal name is listed in the heavens and calls down a heavenly procession to clothe Yinxi in the garb of immortals. The story continues that Laozi bestowed a number of titles upon Yinxi and took him on a journey throughout the universe, even into the nine heavens. After this fantastic journey, the two sages set out to western lands of the barbarians. The training period, reuniting and travels represent the attainment of the highest religious rank in medieval Taoism called "Preceptor of the Three Caverns". In this legend, Laozi is the perfect Daoist master and Yinxi is the ideal Taoist student. Laozi is presented as the Tao personified, giving his teaching to humanity for their salvation. Yinxi follows the formal sequence of preparation, testing, training and attainment." -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laozi


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The following diagram I drew based on the book "關尹子" "Guan Yin Zi", written in nine chapters by 尹喜 Yin Xi. -- http://zh.wikisource.org/wiki/%E9%97%9C ... 9%E5%AD%90


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Because of Jing there is Hun - water allows the tree to grow
Because of Hun there is Shen - the tree is burned to make fire
Because of Shen there is Yi - the fire returns the tree to the earth
Because of Yi there is Po - the earth produces the gold
Because of Po there is Jing - the gold creates the pure water.
The 5 phases are an endless circle.

The mother gives the Jing/water to the child.
The father gives the Shen/fire to the child.

The 5 attributes:
Hun - Ren (humaneness)
Shen - Li (courtesy)
Yi - Xin (trust)
Po - Yi (righteousness)
Jing - Zhi (wisdom)



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Re: Daoist Cultivation

Postby D_Glenn on Tue Sep 16, 2008 5:15 pm

The only mention of the organs in this model is that the Hun resides in the eyes during the day while the Po resides in the liver at night.

There is the dichotomy between the Hun and Po. Po needs to be gained control of by the Hun.

Yi (intention) is never mentioned in regards to its role of qi because I believe it is assumed that since Yi/intent is the mover of blood and qi, what happens after the 'intent' is matter of the shen and jing, or rather it is there regardless but the extent of it is dependent on the shen and jing. The Yi, JIng, and Shen are like the 3 legs of a 3 legged table, without 1 it falls. All 3 will be equal, a loss of 1 will diminish them all and the hun and po. A surplus of 1 will raise them all up as well as the hun and po.

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Re: Daoist Cultivation

Postby chud on Tue Sep 16, 2008 9:29 pm

I like that Wu Xing graphic.
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Re: Daoist Cultivation

Postby Doc Stier on Thu Sep 18, 2008 1:31 pm

This material may of interest as a comparison to the posted article:

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Tao-Yin Yang-Shen Kung

Tao-Yin Yang-Shen Kung (Taoist Life Nourishing Exercises) is the result of a long and deep research on ancient daoyin techniques carried out by Professor Chang Kuang-Te of Beijing Physical Education University.

Its soft, fluent and harmonious movements are aimed at improving energy circulation within the whole body, to loosen the joints, tone up and oxygenate the muscles and to relax the nervous system.

Several clinical tests made in China and examinations done by medical specialists and researchers from all over the world, have proved Tao-Yin Yang-Shen Kung to be effective in improving the health, preventing and healing many acute and chronic diseases without showing any side effect.

Tao-Yin doesn't restrict itself to the health aspect. Thanks to its deep and meticulous work on concentration, respiration and movements, daoyin is also a wonderful method for self-cultivation and inner growth. With Tao-Yin we can establish a close connection between body and mind and restore the inner harmony that so often gets damaged in our stressful daily life.

Five Natures and Three Hearts:

Tao-Yin Yang-Shen Kung is based on the so-called "Five Natures" (Wu-Hsing) and "Three Hearts" (San-Hsin).

The "Five Natures" are:

1. Systematic Nature (Hsi-Tung-Hsing)
2. Scientific Nature (Kou-Hsueh-Hsing)
3. Effectiveness (Shi-Hsiao-Hsing)
4. Artistic Expression (Yi-Shu-Hsing)
5. Great Spread (Kuang-Fan Shi-Ying-Hsing)

The "Three Hearts " are:

1. Pure Heart (Chen-Hsin)
2. Enthusiastic Heart (Je-Hsin)
3. Patient Heart (Nai-Hsin)

The "Five Natures" refer to the criteria that lead to the construction of the exercises.

Tao-Yin Yang-Shen Kung is a complete system of training, it isn't restricted to a single exercise pattern or to a single aim. The construction of every exercise has been carried out in a "systematic" way, considering several aspects. As far as possible, nothing has been neglected in building-up the Tao-Yin routines.

It has a "scientific nature" because the creator, by composing the single routines, did not just passively transmit the old tradition, but also had a great concern for researching and testing the scientific principles of the exercises.

"Effectiveness" because the exercises formulated by Professor Chang were based upon objective principles that proved to be effective also according to modern scientific knowledge.

"Artistic Expression" because the different forms have not only a pragmatic aim, but play a significant role as well as an aesthetic and artistic model in spiritual and physical expression.

"Great Spread" means that the creator strove to reach a possible compromise between technical, pedagogical and diffusion needs, composing exercises that are not boring, repetitive and complicated but relatively simple, varied, elegant, beautiful, and appropriate in length and intensity.

The "Three Hearts" refer to the mind attitude of Daoyin devotees.

"Pure Heart" means that the practitioner should have a pure and unpolluted approach towards the discipline and the training. He has to get rid of any conditioning, worry, suspect or doubt. This is the best condition to learn. A pure heart and a sincere mind allow for a better life with ourselves and with others, as well the opportunity to absorb quickly the teaching.

"Enthusiastic Heart" means enthusiasm towards study, practice and learning. Enthusiasm is a wonderful motor for learning, it enriches our life and our person making it more active and dynamic, and it helps us to overcome the difficult moments too.

"Patient Heart" is an essential requirement to learn any discipline, and even more to learn a demanding art like Tao-Yin. "Patience" means to be patient with ourselves and with others. Tao-Yin characteristics force us to cultivate patience, a very necessary and often mistreated virtue in today society.

Technique:

The Tao-Yin Yang-Shen Kung System provides sitting and standing, static and dynamic, symmetric exercises with various degrees of difficulty, to be performed also with specific musical excerpts in order to help concentration and relaxation.
The exercises are aimed towards special goals and have distinctive features, but every single exercise is at the same time quite complete in itself and enough for personal training.

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Re: Daoist Cultivation

Postby D_Glenn on Thu Sep 18, 2008 4:36 pm

That's interesting in regard to what it says about the heart. I'll have to look up the chinese and see how it relates to other daoist texts.

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Re: Daoist Cultivation

Postby D_Glenn on Thu Sep 18, 2008 4:44 pm

The fascinating thing about this book by Yin Xi is that he was either a contemporary of Lao Zi, or his full-time student and his book which was written roughly 2500 years ago is like the technical manual to accompany Lao's "Dao de jing". I haven't found any full translations of Yin Xi's book "Guan Yin Zi" into english, which is odd in itself but not surprising if you look at what has happened to the "Dao de jing" through translation and what Daoism has become:


"...this fact has prompted many scholars to consider religious Taoism as a later, bastardized development of a "pure" mystical philosphy supposed to be that of the Tao-te ching.

The chapters of the Tao-te ching, on the contrary, do refer to real body practices. This is shown not only in the passages I have just quoted but also in all ancient commentaries. The commentators' aim was to fill in, wherever necessary, the space left open by mysticism and politics by equating each precept with a physical technique.

Let me take, for example, an excerpt from chapter 3, which says: "It is by not exalting men of talent that we avoid jealousies among the people; by not prizing rare goods that we avoid thefts; by not showing off things that excite desire that we avoid disturbing the minds of others. Therefore, when the Sage rules the country, he empties the hears of the people and fills their bellies, he weakens their wills and strengthens their bones; he sees that they remain without knowledge or desire."

An anomymous commentator, only known by his surname as Old Man of the Riverside (Ho-shang kung; dates unknown, but undoubtedly from the Han period) explained this political message in these terms: "The Sage's rule over the country corresponds to the rule over the body; cast away desires and worries, hold fast to the Tao, embrace the One, keep the gods of the Five (Viscera). . . . By being careful with one's semen, restricting its emission, the marrow will increase and the bones will be strengthened."

Another anonymous commentary, under the pseudonym of one Hsiang Erh and probably dating from the same period, remarks on the phrase "filling their bellies": "The belly is the skin of the Tao wherein all the Ch'i must be concentrated."

" --- The Taoist Body By Kristofer Marinus Schipper, Karen C. Duval


Even the later daoist schools that do adhere to daoism as a 'body practice' or 'health cultivation' have added a lot things to the basic 5 phase model that only seem to make the process more complex than it need be.

The simplest explanations were written 2500 years ago.

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Re: Daoist Cultivation

Postby shawnsegler on Thu Sep 18, 2008 5:04 pm

D GLenn and Doc Stier...I'd love it we could plan a chat session some night using the chat feature. I'd love to pick you're brains about this stuff.

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Re: Daoist Cultivation

Postby Doc Stier on Thu Sep 18, 2008 9:07 pm

shawnsegler wrote:D GLenn and Doc Stier...I'd love it we could plan a chat session some night using the chat feature. I'd love to pick you're brains about this stuff.

Yo, Shawn!

I'm down with that. Maybe we pick your brain a bit, too, man. ;)

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Re: Daoist Cultivation

Postby shawnsegler on Thu Sep 18, 2008 9:18 pm

Yeah, but that can't be worth anything...I'm like sgt schulz...I know nussing!!!

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Re: Daoist Cultivation

Postby Doc Stier on Thu Sep 18, 2008 9:23 pm

The Jade Emperor's Embryonic Breath Classic

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1.1 胎從伏氣中結,
氣從有胎中息。
The embryo is borne from where chi is hiding,
and chi ceases from the being of the embryo.

1.2 氣入身來謂之生,
神去離形謂之死。
Chi entering the body is called life;
Spirit going and departing form is called death.

1.3 知神氣可以長生,
故守虛無以養神氣。
Knowing spirit and chi, one can long live.
So, keep to void and nothingness to nourish the spirit and chi.

2.1 神行即氣行,
神住即氣住。
Spirit acts, then chi acts;
Spirit resides, then chi resides.

2.2 若欲長生,
神氣相注。
If you desire to long live,
spirit and chi should mutually attend.

3.1 心不動念,
無來無去。
Mind not moving into thoughts,
not coming and not going.

3.2 不出不入,
自然常在。 Not out nor in,
naturally always be.

3.3 勤而行之,
是真道路。
Assiduously in this Way
is the real Tao.

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Re: Daoist Cultivation

Postby D_Glenn on Fri Sep 19, 2008 6:34 am

The Jade emperors classics (written in the song dynasty 960 to 1276 a.d.) reads like an abridged version of the "Guan Yin Zi". Off the top of my head most of those lines look like they were copied verbatim from it.

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Re: Triplex Unity Theory

Postby Doc Stier on Fri Sep 19, 2008 9:34 am

Here's a link to a topic related article regarding the Triplex Unity Theory in Classical Taoism:

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http://www.triplexunity.com/docs/background1.htm

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Re: Daoist Cultivation

Postby shawnsegler on Fri Sep 19, 2008 9:49 am

Nice page, Doc.

This part here is soooooo where CMA problems come from. It's really hard to make people understand that sometimes this is a superior way to learn...unfortunately it's also easily manipulated into all kinds of unscrupulous ends.

The initiate is given tools which allow them to make sense of the veiled language and therefore discover hidden truths for themselves. This appears to be a tactic of philosophical teachers in Ancient China, as knowledge gained through personal discovery is sometimes considered more valuable for the one who discovers it themselves than when it is freely given to them.
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The Small Circle of Heaven (Hsiao-Chou-Tien)

Postby Doc Stier on Fri Sep 19, 2008 3:01 pm

The Small Circle of Heaven or Hsiao-Chou-Tien

In addition to the purely mystical Taoism of the Tao-Te-Ching, and to village shamanism and magic, there was a third spiritual tradition in China that has also been given the term Taoism. This is a tradition of yogic transformation of the vital-force or chi, the so-called "inner alchemy", because it uses alchemical metaphors and purports to be a quest for immortality.

In China, alchemy was originally a search for immortality through various drugs, herbs, and chemicals. This is known as wai-tan, external alchemy, and was developed probably around the 4th century b.c.e., half a millenium before the earliest reference to alchemy in the West.

Alongside this, and perhaps a little later, there developed Nei-Tan, internal alchemy, which was actually a sort of yoga or meditation-practice, not unlike Indian Tantra, which resembled external alchemy only in its terminology (the alchemical terms having a symbolic rather than a literal meaning). Internal alchemy had as its aim the cultivation of the life-force, and the consequent attainment of immortality of the personality.

The basic premise of the the esoteric or Nei-Tan Taoists is that man has only a limited store of vital-force or chi. This leaks away through day-to-day activities, and when it's all gone, that's it, the person's dead. But it is possible to make the chi go back inside, rather than outwards, and then up the spine to the crown. This obviously is very like the Tantric Kundalini. In ascending, the chi progresses through various stations, which are given exotic names like the Elixir Field, the Yellow Hall of the Heaven. Now comes the difference with Shakta based Tantra. Reaching the top of the head, the chi then descends down the front of the body, down to the navel, and then around again, forming a complete circuit. This circut is known as "The Circulation of the Light", "The Small Circle of Heaven", or in recent modern times...."The Microcosmic Orbit".

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The Circulation of the Light

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The Small Circle of Heaven

Once the circulation or orbit is established, the chi energy is then guided inward to the center of the body, where it is progressively refined and transmuted through three centres: the lower, middle, and upper Elixir Fields or Tan-Tiens, the goal being to create an Immortal Spirit Body through which the adept can function on a higher plane of existence than the ordinary physical body. Because of the emphasis on the dynamic flow and circulation of chi energy, very little importance is placed on the actual chakras or energy centers themselves, these being at most points or stations of attention within the overall circulation orbit. One can, however, associate the Three Tan-Tiens....located below the navel, behind the solar plexus, and in the centre of the head....and the heart center with the Indian Yogic Chakras.

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Re: Daoist Cultivation

Postby josh on Sun Sep 21, 2008 4:13 pm

The fascinating thing about this book by Yin Xi is that he was either a contemporary of Lao Zi, or his full-time student and his book which was written roughly 2500 years ago is like the technical manual to accompany Lao's "Dao de jing". I haven't found any full translations of Yin Xi's book "Guan Yin Zi" into english, which is odd in itself but not surprising if you look at what has happened to the "Dao de jing" through translation and what Daoism has become:


Sorry to be a party pooper, but the Guanyinzi in 9 fascicles listed in the Han Shu has long since disappeared. The text that you linked to above, also known as Wenshi zhenjing 文始真經, is a Song dynasty creation, probably 13th century and associated with the Quanzhen movement.

However, if you do want to see a nearly 2500-year-old manual on self-cultivation, check out the "Neiye" 內業 chapter of the Warring States book Guanzi 管子, studied and translated by Harold Roth in his book Original Tao. Very interesting stuff 8-)
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