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Andy_S wrote:(Yes, I KNOW there is an argument that PH is "only a training exercise" and is "not for competition or for fighting," but if you take away PH competition, then Taiji is left with no contact competition at all. Given that it is no longer common for Taiji peeps to fight death matches, challenge the imperial bodyguards, escort caravans through bandit-infested countryside, etc, etc, the lack of this last competitive format would push the art even further away from its already distant martial roots.)
My problem with combining it with SC is basically the same as with PH competitions, namely that strikes of any kind aren't allowed.
Sure, but so what is your point? If you want a striking and grappling comp, you have sanda/sansau. Moreover, sanda competition is increasingly widely seen in general CMA competitions, and is (IMHO) an excellent reality test for CMA.
In an ideal world, we would not need separate subsets of combat like PH, wrestling, judo, BJJ, TKD, boxing, kickboxing, etc - we would just have MMA, which covers everything you can do within the sportive, unarmed combat field. But it is not an ideal world.
Well, in the mainland PH comps the aim is:
To get the opponent's knee (or usually, more of him) on the deck;
To get the opponent off the leitai.
The skillset that is often, however, seen in certain HK, Taiwanese and US tourneys - to move (usually by pushing or pulling) the opponent one or two inches - seems to be to be a pretty useless to develop, in combative terms. Online, there is a clip of some HK Taiji peeps who had clearly been used to the "pushy pully" style of training, going up against some young guns from Zhaobao Taiji and being hurled hither and yon to a degree that must have been severely embarrassing to them.
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