Oldest real pictures/videos of TCMA

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Oldest real pictures/videos of TCMA

Postby jonathan.bluestein on Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:49 pm

Any idea as to which these would be?
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Re: Oldest real pictures/videos of TCMA

Postby Peacedog on Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:17 pm

In the West you would be talking US Civil War period and just a little before (late 1850s to mid 18160s). I'm not sure if that technology was even in use in China at the time. Some of the historians on the board could say for sure.
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Re: Oldest real pictures/videos of TCMA

Postby nicklinjm on Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:32 pm

Hmm, tricky one. Can only speak for the arts I know well (IMA). For xingyiquan, oldest photo is probably the famous photo of Guo Yunshen visiting Che Yizhai in Taigu in 1903 - but they're seated, not actually showing any xyq. Oldest set of photos of actual xingyiquan and baguazhang practice are probably Sun Lutang's books, 'Baguazhang Xue' (the study of bgz) and 'Xingyiquan Xue' (the study of xyq), which were published in 1915-16. This period (~1915 - 1930s) saw a lot of books published in TCMA, by masters like Huang Bonian, Jiang Rongqiao, Xue Dian, Yin Fu's son Yin Yuzhang, etc etc. For taiji the earliest pictures are probably of Yang Chengfu from Chen Weiming's book, Taijiquan Shu (the art of tjq), published in 1925.

Video would be (much) later, depending on which art. Earliest video I can think of is of Wu Jianquan's student Chu Minyi, which was shot in the 1930s.
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Re: Oldest real pictures/videos of TCMA

Postby Martin2 on Fri Jan 25, 2013 11:34 pm

A video with Taijiquan from the same time 1930s is this:



Was here before. So nothing new.

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