Yin style bagua and throwing

[mixjourneyman]

This is something that has been on my mind somewhat recently: If you look at bagua, people usually attribute Cheng style's common use of shuai techniques to Cheng Ting Hua having been a Chinese wrestler, but I think Yin guys do a lot of throws too.
Would Yin style generally be considered as a predominantly striking based art, or is it a union of striking and throwing?
Within Cheng style I have actually been introduced to more striking than throwing, so maybe its just dependent on the teacher, but why do people always say that Cheng is for Shuai techniques and Yin is for striking?
Just interested to know what people think.

[somatai]

yin is small circle hard hand....lots of strikes preface the throws, but there are loads of throws

[edededed]

It seems to me like the Gao style guys (of Taiwan? Not sure about Tianjin or other places) seem to emphasize throwing the most.

The Beijing styles of Yin, Cheng, Liang, and Gao all seem to train striking first (but also have throwing methods).

[C.J.Wang]

This is something that has been on my mind somewhat recently: If you look at bagua, people usually attribute Cheng style's common use of shuai techniques to Cheng Ting Hua having been a Chinese wrestler, but I think Yin guys do a lot of throws too.
Would Yin style generally be considered as a predominantly striking based art, or is it a union of striking and throwing?
Within Cheng style I have actually been introduced to more striking than throwing, so maybe its just dependent on the teacher, but why do people always say that Cheng is for Shuai techniques and Yin is for striking?
Just interested to know what people think.

The type of techniques a martial artist favors depends mainly upon his training background. Naturally, it'd make sense that Yin Fu, who stuided Luohan prior to Bagua, favored striking while Cheng Tin-Hua, who was a SC player, emphasized throwing techniques. However, keep in mind that in CMA, striking and grappling are often combined in one motion. A strike can be a throw, and a throw can be a strike. So when a Bagua master knocks someone down in a blink of an eye, who can say for sure whether he used a strike or a throw?

My Gao style teacher prefers moves that appear to be striking techniques, but as soon as he adds leg movements or changes body placements, the very same moves become throws and takedowns.

[mixjourneyman]

C.J.W: yeah, Mr.Yang also likes putting legs and hands together to create "knock downs". I think that type of technique is really a hallmark of good bagua application.