jonathan.bluestein wrote:Thanks again for my friend Rick for hosting it.
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jaime_g wrote:Nice article. I loved technical comparisons. Did you take a look at european longsabers?
http://www.burg-assum.de/langesMesser1.jpg
http://img.4plebs.org/boards/tg/image/1 ... 096781.jpg
leftwose wrote:I just wanted to note: The Miaodao I practice is an A/B form. The B side Counters and Opposes the A side. It can be trained as either A as a short form, B as a short form, AB as a form or A/B (B/A) as a two person form. I don't know if this counts as a fixed partner drill that you mention in the article. I learned it from a Baji guy whose material also included piguadao, 13 daqiang and fengmogun, but the flavor has always felt different to me than the pigua derived miaodao I see presented online.
willywrong wrote:Nice article Jonathan.
I've personally always preferred the shorter tool along the lines of the 'Twilight Samurai '. I shortened our 6 foot pole/spear form down to a 5 foot pole just personal preference, only for me. Of course I still teach the 6 foot pole to my students. It means of course bridging the gap becomes an art form. Sword that long could be clumsy in a cosier environment.
I love European swords, but didn't want to say much of them in the article since I have no experience with them whatsoever. In the future I hope to see if some Miao Dao gongfu can be adapted to Medieval longswords.
jonathan.bluestein
[quote="willywrong wrote:Nice article Jonathan.
I've personally always preferred the shorter tool along the lines of the 'Twilight Samurai '. I shortened our 6 foot pole/spear form down to a 5 foot pole just personal preference, only for me. Of course I still teach the 6 foot pole to my students. It means of course bridging the gap becomes an art form. Sword that long could be clumsy in a cosier environment.
Finny wrote:Just FYI JB - Shinkageryu was founded by Kamiizumi based on Aisu Kage Ryu, which obviously was extant prior to the founding of the Shin(new)Kageryu. Kageryu was mentioned in some court documents - I think something was said about a mokuroku being found by the Chinese.
http://hoplology.com/weapons_detail.asp?offset=-1
I think you might be better served just discussing the miao dao rather than attempting the CMA/JMA analysis, but that's just me. Thanks for the article - very interesting.
willywrong wrote:
Read a book on archaeology the Chinese weaponry going right back to maybe 1000 BC covers and lots of dynasties blah blah. The average size sword from the archaeological record was 18 to 22 inches. Very short sword. Shorter weapons were preferred in mass combat as people presumably were very close together and not at the required distances to perform techniques. That's not to say that some long swords were not in use. I remember reading somewhere that the Romans defeated a lot of the Celtic and the northern tribes of Europe (German tribes) and it was mentioned that a lot of the German tribesman were cutting their own men down because their swords were too long. The Romans of course uses spear and a short sword from behind a big shield. Still a mailee. Quite sure that someone such as Andy S could give you more details and references on this.
jaime_g wrote:...
I have also encountered claims that Cheng Chongdou, author of the Miao Dao book Dān Dāo Fǎ Xuǎn I mentioned earlier, was influenced by the Samurai school called Shin Kage Ryu (新陰流; ‘New Shadow School’), and that Qi Jiguang, author of the other Miao Dao book, Xīn Yǒu Dāo Fǎ, based his work upon a Japanese swordsmanship manual he acquired in battle.
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