Internal power course (middleway)

[Patrick]

Some short video, where I try to incorporate opening/closing of dan tien/ming men of the IP course in old yi quan exercises.

[I-mon]

Looks just like how I do it! With a bit more finger-wiggling.

[Patrick]

hehe, yeah sorry. I cannot stop that, they are doing this by themselves. Its not like I want to look very Qi like
And thanks for the compliment.

[GrahamB]

Nice field!

I've seen people waggling their fingers before when doing tai chi and they say it's the chi, and they're not doing it themselves - its involuntary. What's that about? Why do they waggle?

[charles]

Nice field!

I've seen people waggling their fingers before when doing tai chi and they say it's the chi, and they're not doing it themselves - its involuntary. What's that about? Why do they waggle?

I've been fortunate to have met a fair number of very skilled practitioners. Not a single one of them had "involuntary" finger movements.

Truly, a man out standing in his field. Sorry, couldn't resist.

[middleway]

nice vid Patrick. Nice body work.

ref the fingers. This is one of the reasons we do ming men connects to little finger, dan tien point to thumb, Middle finger axis. Then there is no room to wiggle

[Mr_Wood]

yeah ive known people to have a few shakes when getting used to qi gong, nei gong etc.. but usually settles down after a while. I knew a wu dang guy who used to waggle his fingers voluntarily, not sure why, i think some people just like to get more feeling in their fingers this way.

[I-mon]

Truly, a man out standing in his field.

[GrahamB]

Truly, a man out standing in his field.

Handclap!

[Patrick]

Thanks Chris, appreciated!

I am also happy, that you regonize the importance of this field.

[charles]

Thanks Chris, appreciated!

I am also happy, that you regonize the importance of this field.

I didn't mean to detract from the work you are doing: it looks good. I've learned a few variations of the two exercises you have shown. My suggestion is to be clear as to the intent of the two actions. For example, in the first, when you extend your arms, is your intent to the finger tips or the heel of the hand? In the second, on opening, is your intent to wrists or the back of the hand?

[Patrick]

Thank you very much Charles for your input, appreciated! I was mainly focused on the opening/closing part of the DT/MM, as it was really (!) something new to me. My main teacher never talked about such stuff and other teachers never explained it in detail. Will try to keep that - in regard of the intent - in mind!

And no worries, I was just carring on with the joke

[charles]

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[GrahamB]

Here's a purely philosophical question -

You do these exercises, you can feel the opening and closing action of the front and back of the body (or Ming men and dantien)... Then what?

Is it like riding a bike, where you can now 'do it' and you don't need to keep practicing it (sure you'll be a bit rusty but you never forget how to ride a bike and after a 20 year hiatus you can pick it up again in 10 minutes)?

Or is it that you get better at it, or ... Oh I don't know. I guess I just mean, why do this once you've 'got it'.?

[Patrick]

What do you want to know? What kind of attributes and motor skills these eXercises could train or my personal motivation?