how much pain in ur game

[wiesiek]

I discover deep inside me - love to the sword recently,
so
I add 1 h., of the sword forms to my everyday workout,
+ re -introduced myself to the some weight training , then
in the morning I have hard time with beginning of the day

no pain no gain - we all knows this,
but
how much?
when you`re close to the 60` y.o., and still like to grow fast, not to break ...

I have some experience, so, I`m not going with trainings like like "back to the my tournament days" ,
however, sometime I have impression, that I`m pushing too much or to little ...
how to find the gold ?
-some rules ?
-mind to share teachers/yours experience , if you please .

[GrahamB]

Is this post some form of Haiku?

[wiesiek]

can be...
fell free to put your words on the subject

[GrahamB]

Yoga. Do it, you feel good.

[wiesiek]

doing it last 40 year or so... /had couple of no -doing periods, dough/

death bird
singing the song
death people
rushing somewhere

[wiesiek]

ps
yoga-judo- karate-qigong - is the name of my new style
anyway,
I feel good /well, most of the time /

-are you to young for this thread Sir GrahamB,
or
this thread doesn`t make sense at all, `cause answer is obvious /as much as u can ALWAYS /

I have to transcendently bow over this
and do 100 lefts and rights circles ...

[Dmitri]

With your experience, I would imagine your body should be telling you very clearly "how much" it needs or wants.

If there's any doubt, I personally would err on the side of caution (i.e. "less pain"), even though I always liked to push myself further than most (around me).
Of course, others' mileage will vary...


Everyone ages
More pain, less pain - doesn't matter
It is Wednesday now

[chenyaolong]

I feel like I smoked too much of something funny after reading this thread

[Bill]

When you push yourself you will always feel some pain in the morning. I'm 58 and I like to take two days off per week. Usually Monday and Thursday.
That being said I'm considering starting in Silat which would add 4 days/week, 2hrs/class. I'm already groaning over and looking forward to it.

[neijia_boxer]

you must have pain in swordsmanship even if it is "but a scratch"

[RobP2]

Pain is for the other guy. I want my training to make me feel better, not worse

[wiesiek]

yes, Dmitri you`re right , body language 1st
just haiku-ing /as Graham noticed/,the way to outsmart it little bit ...
-
bon appetite, be my guest , chenyao.,

so Bill, we are brothers in the age , day break, or two is very good, it occurs naturally, in my case /don`t have time to go out /, time only for qigong- to feel and to heal places unknown yet
-
neja- i love it

.....the move ...and the pain
-
sure Rob,, - this is point >one< when S.H.T.F.
we are considering training right now, were - if you in >comfort zone,< - all the time.../do I need to add the word? /

[dspyrido]

I discover deep inside me - love to the sword recently,
so
I add 1 h., of the sword forms to my everyday workout,
+ re -introduced myself to the some weight training , then
in the morning I have hard time with beginning of the day

To qualify - im not 60 yet but the following works for me...

The body adjusts and what was hard on day 1 will get easier with careful daily practise. Just pick a moderate level and be patient.

Pain will happen and is a reality but there is a difference between pain & being damaged.

If things are unbearable take a day or two off (or more), understand what you did wrong, get a good masseuse or someone to do a look over. If required find ways to keep going (something is always better than nothing), lower the intensity, change the exercise.

[Taste of Death]

Joint circling. Pavel Tsatsouline's "Super Joints" is a good resource.
Kettlebell swings followed by get ups.
Pavel's "Simple and Sinister"
Swings: 5 x 10L/10R
Put the bell down for a few seconds between hand switches. Swing at the top of every minute until you get all 100 swings in. When you can do it in under 5 minutes and your form is good and you feel like you really "own" the bell move up in weight.
Get ups: 5 x 1L/1R
Get ups should be done in under 10 minutes. The program can be done daily. The "simple" goal is using a 32kg bell for both swings and get ups. The "sinister" goal is 48kg.

[wiesiek]

thank you , good advices

I intuitively added/returned to the kettlebells , not in the morning and 48 kg , dough
I follow the internal sage themeplate -qigong/lot of joint circling/ in the morning , heavy workout - afternoon,
my addition: evening - hot tube with plenty of salt.
We have old salt mine - near by Krakow, kinda of super -duper salt, from the time when our whole planet was Jurassic park .
Similar effect you can get from Death Sea salt , but it is much more expensive option. Ordinary sea salt works , but a little,not so deep not so good...