meversbergii wrote:2) What about his Bagua section? I'd expect that if Section B is written towards the army, so would Section A be, but it could be two different books compiled together.
1) Is Yin Yuzhang's sabre teachings - the dadao teachings - actually written towards the army? I know several units deployed this weapon during the Second Sino-Japanese War, and it would not surprise me if Jin En-Zong wasn't the only author targeting them.
2) What about his Bagua section? I'd expect that if Section B is written towards the army, so would Section A be, but it could be two different books compiled together.
3) Is Rovere's work - Xingyi Fist and Weapon Instruction - held in any esteem? Or is it so obscure as to not have a yes or no attached to it?
4) Other than the Xingyi system written for the Central Military Academy at Nanjing and Jin En-Zhong's manual written towards the Da Dao Dui of the 29th Army, what else do we have written towards troops of the time? I would expect many of them having their own background in martial arts, but the various organizations of the military obviously saw value in a standardized curriculum.
meversbergii wrote:Hello, new here. I am not a CMA practitioner, though I do have martial arts experience under my belt and I do peruse CMA writings as an amateur academic and roleplay gamer. Xingyiquan has become a recent interest of mine because of these things.
I recently read several books that sent me down this path. It started with Dennis Rovere's publication on Huang Bo Nien's "Xingyi Fist and Weapon Instruction"; an interesting book, as it was a nexus between military combatives and more traditional martial arts. Both of these are interesting to me, so I naturally grabbed a copy as soon as I was aware of it. It lead me to another Xingyiquan book, a very slim volume called The Xingyi Boxing Manual: Hebei Style's Five Principles and Seven Words. A reccommendation from an acquaintance brought me to Brian Kennedy's "Chinese Martial Arts Training Manuals: A Historical Survey", which in turn lead me to "Yin Yuzhang's Baguazhang".
I've only begun to peruse the latter recently. Kennedy's book implied that this Baguazhang's sabre section (which if memory serves he described as being for the miaodao, when it clearly depicts a dadao) was written towards the Chinese Army in some capacity, which is why I bought a copy. In addition to Rovere's work, I also have experience with Jin En-Zhong's "Practical Big Sabre Techniques", translated a few years back into English by Jack Chen. All this leaves me with a few questions that someone here might know the answer to.
1) Is Yin Yuzhang's sabre teachings - the dadao teachings - actually written towards the army? I know several units deployed this weapon during the Second Sino-Japanese War, and it would not surprise me if Jin En-Zong wasn't the only author targeting them.
2) What about his Bagua section? I'd expect that if Section B is written towards the army, so would Section A be, but it could be two different books compiled together.
3) Is Rovere's work - Xingyi Fist and Weapon Instruction - held in any esteem? Or is it so obscure as to not have a yes or no attached to it?
4) Other than the Xingyi system written for the Central Military Academy at Nanjing and Jin En-Zhong's manual written towards the Da Dao Dui of the 29th Army, what else do we have written towards troops of the time? I would expect many of them having their own background in martial arts, but the various organizations of the military obviously saw value in a standardized curriculum.
This is a niche within a niche, but after perusing a few posts on here that turned up while trying to Google away my questions, I figured this might not be a terrible place to start asking.
Thanks!
M.
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