Animal Stances in Xingyi Quan

[mixjourneyman]

The guy should seriously write a book or something. He reminds me of the dude who wrote all that mystical crap about Kwan Seihung.

[kshurika]

Back to the original question. I do Xing Yi. What's an "animal stance"?

[Josealb]

I guess its a shaolin thing, in which animals have specific static guard positions and/or trademark stances. Xingyi doesnt.

[xingyijuan]

Jose, you are not in the path of mastery...

[Josealb]

I know.

[Shaolin Warrior]

LMAO . Thanks everyone, I think. Anyway, I am a sorry I had to ask this question. I know that there are no animal stances in Xing Yi but there are animal postures. I had some kid trying to convince me that if I did not know them then I did not know Xing Yi.The question was, "What is the difference between Dragon Stance and the Phoenix stance"? I know that the cross legged stance in the Dragon is sometimes called Dragon stance . But I have not heard of Phoenix stance . As far as I know there are not any Phoenix forms in Xing Yi. I asked him if it goes by another name or which animal it was featured in and he started with his childish antics. It is funny seeing as no one I know or have talked to has any idea what he is talking about. The only reason I asked was to make sure that I was not missing anything in my teachings.

[williamwilson666]

Still, an awful lot of posts concerning something which doesn't exist. Not unlike a Christian forum.

N.B. At this point I shall withdraw from the debate and crack open a beverage- thank you!

[neijia_boxer]

i think he wants to know the name of the stances used in the Animal shapes-

I guess it depends on the lineage your learning Xingyi/hsingyi from but generally:

dragon stance uses- shi bu (knee inside front leg) kneeling stance
tiger- high front stance with a half step or back foot step up (dont know name)
snake- Entering Ring Stance (入環式, ruhuanshi), like a low crouching stance with one knee close to the ground
horse- san ti
eagle/bear- Entering Ring Stance
swallow- pu bu- drop stance
rooster- modified san ti

anyone else care to assist on the matter?

[Josealb]

Pheonix would be one of the names for Tai....



Although, its considered by some an actual small chinese bird with a curious hunting habit.

[JAB]

Everything is San Ti because it is not a stance, but a set of alignments. Everything in XY is based on San Ti.
Always remember, those who talk a big talk rarely walk the walk. Sounds like you met a Douchy-McDoucherson in regards to the douche bag you wasted valuable minutes of your life on.
Jake

[nianfong]

the guy's probably shaolin-do.

[williamwilson666]

the guy's probably shaolin-do.

Shaolin-do is th3 d34dly.

[edededed]

While there is much xingyi material that is yet unknown by the public, the whole idea of "stances" is sort of a karate thing or movie kung fu thing anyway - I think the kid is just learning another one of those fake (TM) "new" styles of xingyi.

[Strange]

as i understand it, its chicken step all the way

[neijia_boxer]

Everything is San Ti because it is not a stance, but a set of alignments. Everything in XY is based on San Ti.

Xingyi shapes must have santi principles- but they still use various traditional chinese martial arts stances. ma bu, gong bu, shi bu, pu bu, ect. in one form or another is in xingyiquan. I've never met a Chinese martial arts teacher of internal martial arts not emphasize the importance of stance. It is the foundation to good skill.

the whole idea of "stances" is sort of a karate thing or movie kung fu thing anyway

Stance work is not a karate thing- I am sorry but many asian martial arts evolved from Chinese martial arts. people who take stances lightly usually have shitty stances and suck when demonstrating forms- its obvious and apparent and an embarrassment to IMA/CMA and those who trained hard with basics.