wayne hansen wrote:Ps Serena you are a breath of fresh air
At last someone saying smart things in an interesting way
wayne hansen wrote:I see a lack of foundation in the Chen
What you call simplification Bruce lee called economy of motion
Serena wrote:
the origin is from military fighting techniques and not daoist sages. you should stop and think about what must have really happened
Try a fresh start --> here's another truth, self serving to some or not --> Yang lu-chan promised Chen Chang-Xing he would never teach the Chen's family art. Subsequently certain jings (err, I mean, THINGS) were removed and replaced with others from somewhere else.
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willie wrote:oh my, I just got back from training. I dare both of you to prove these statements.
Bao wrote:willie wrote:oh my, I just got back from training. I dare both of you to prove these statements.
Prove that I am wrong.
Chen Fake who popularized Chen style was illiterate. His father was in his 60s when he was born and was always working as an escort. He was taught by villagers who had no education them either. You can easily search, read and if you can find out something else, tell me that I am wrong.
The Yang family and the students of Yang Luchan probably both preserved and developed the Chen tradition better than the peasants in the village.
willie wrote:your not wrong about them being farmers. they were.
what you are wrong about is assuming that you will win. you do yourself a favor and forget what you think you know...
Taste of Death wrote:willie wrote:Yang simplified the art to make it easier to learn, But in doing so, left out an entire array of undisclosed universal concepts.
I believe that in order to fill this void, alternative theories replaced the unspoken universal laws.
The Yangs likely taught an empty version of their art to the guards, who were of a different ethnicity. They kept the concepts in the family art.
Ron Panunto wrote:Taste of Death wrote:willie wrote:Yang simplified the art to make it easier to learn, But in doing so, left out an entire array of undisclosed universal concepts.
I believe that in order to fill this void, alternative theories replaced the unspoken universal laws.
The Yangs likely taught an empty version of their art to the guards, who were of a different ethnicity. They kept the concepts in the family art.
Do you really think that this would have been possible? The palace guards were already master level martial artists; why would the wealthy hire them if they weren't. It seems to me that if the Yang's claimed their style was better than all others, then they would have to prove that to their employer and all of the palace guards on a daily basis. I'm sure that if the Yang's taught "empty" taiji to the guards it would soon be discovered and they would have been kicked out on their behinds, if not executed.
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