LHPF - training methodology?

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Re: LHPF - training methodology?

Postby Wanderingdragon on Fri Sep 30, 2016 2:09 pm

Yes, just simply post a clip of yourself performing the form you have described. A discerning eye will see the truth of your skill simply from that alone. It is easy to talk the skill, performance is the honesty of the art, the body speaks volumes in its movement.
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Re: LHPF - training methodology?

Postby Yeung on Sun Nov 27, 2016 4:38 am

Wanderingdragon wrote:Yes, just simply post a clip of yourself performing the form you have described. A discerning eye will see the truth of your skill simply from that alone. It is easy to talk the skill, performance is the honesty of the art, the body speaks volumes in its movement.


Maybe this clip can demonstrate absorb and repel:

https://www.facebook.com/39716348706001 ... 414084219/

Please let me know what is needed to demonstrate what you want to see.
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Re: LHPF - training methodology?

Postby Strange on Tue Nov 29, 2016 7:59 pm

Yeung wrote:Please let me know what is needed to demonstrate what you want to see.


what is it you think you can show?
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Re: LHPF - training methodology?

Postby Yeung on Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:31 pm

The title of this clip is absorb and repel, may be you can tell me whether it has demonstrated absorb and repel. Any comment form people with discerning eyes will be useful for further improvement.
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Re: LHPF - training methodology?

Postby Strange on Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:41 pm

as what i expect your reply to be:
contrived, evasive, clever in a verbal manner and thoroughly pussified
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Re: LHPF - training methodology?

Postby Wanderingdragon on Wed Nov 30, 2016 9:40 pm

As this is a lhbf thread can you show a lhbf technique that demonstrates absorb and repel?
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Re: LHPF - training methodology?

Postby Yeung on Thu Dec 01, 2016 6:33 am

It should be the move between 3 and 4 of the 66 forms:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djf2oFlDJnU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-G-jsY6mqQ

Is this a LHBF thread?
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Re: LHPF - training methodology?

Postby Strange on Thu Dec 01, 2016 7:19 am

no, this thread is about the Leaping Hound's Pale Frothy
some call it the Leaping Hound's Beer Frothy
its the same thing, its very good and refreshing
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Re: LHPF - training methodology?

Postby suckinlhbf on Thu Dec 01, 2016 9:06 am

Maybe this clip can demonstrate absorb and repel:
https://www.facebook.com/39716348706001 ... 414084219/


The movements from 3 to 4 of the 66 forms are not even close.
The starting move of LHBS is similar, and is in 60/40. It is 3D in 60/40, and 2D in the clip. In LHBS contest, the move is to divert and get in at the same time - no absorb and repel. Just my observation.
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Re: LHPF - training methodology?

Postby Wanderingdragon on Sat Dec 03, 2016 8:01 pm

By now I have come to to realize there are many different presentations of the LHPF form, with different emphasis at different junctures, totally different understanding of application and technique, different intent and body method. In your first clip, I think you titled absorb and repel, I see a fairly decent understanding of structure that surely seems solid enough to to repel as demonstrated, but it shows none of the springiness you have mentioned, which is where any absorption would occur. The body method, IMO, is far more traditional yang tai chi than would be Hwa Yu, and does not seem to truly incorporate the reality of the nine joints. The later clips that you show, well, to me just indicate a complete misunderstanding of the form.
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Re: LHPF - training methodology?

Postby Yeung on Sun Apr 02, 2017 6:29 am

Yeung wrote:
Wanderingdragon wrote:Yes, just simply post a clip of yourself performing the form you have described. A discerning eye will see the truth of your skill simply from that alone. It is easy to talk the skill, performance is the honesty of the art, the body speaks volumes in its movement.


Maybe this clip can demonstrate absorb and repel:

https://www.facebook.com/39716348706001 ... 414084219/

Please let me know what is needed to demonstrate what you want to see.


This clip is demonstrated by Master Kam Tung:

https://uk.video.search.yahoo.com/searc ... ction=view
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Re: LHPF - training methodology?

Postby Drake on Sat Apr 08, 2017 8:39 am

That's not "absorb/repel". That's an explanation of body mechanics. How the leg supports, and strengthens the arm with the spine/torso. :/
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