MaartenSFS wrote:
No, I don't. Not any good ones. I was way too busy training, usually outside and didn't have any to film, so it wasn't convenient..
Do you still train with your master? Are there any other videos of your master sparring?
MaartenSFS wrote:
No, I don't. Not any good ones. I was way too busy training, usually outside and didn't have any to film, so it wasn't convenient..
marvin8 wrote:why practice moves that only work if someone is not moving around?
johnwang wrote:marvin8 wrote:why practice moves that only work if someone is not moving around?
If your opponent moves around, he is using the "fire" strategy. You should use the "water" strategy, let your opponent comes toward you, borrow his force, and counter him. In CMA, there are 5 major strategies "metal", "wood", "water", "fire", "earth". How you may fight depends on which strategy that your opponent may use to against you.
For example, if your opponent is a defensive and counter fighter and wait for you to come in by using the "water" strategy, you then should use "earth" strategy by moving in inch by inch until you can establish your leg bridge and arm bridge. This way since you are moving in slow (inch and inch), it will be difficult for him to borrow your force.
Trick wrote:In todays martial art/sport community, imagine telleng an aspiring pugilist about the importance of the strategies of the five elements, four gates/doors and so on to become a skilled fighter or just to learn self defence, i think they would soon hurry away to the mma gym next door.
johnwang wrote:Trick wrote:In todays martial art/sport community, imagine telleng an aspiring pugilist about the importance of the strategies of the five elements, four gates/doors and so on to become a skilled fighter or just to learn self defence, i think they would soon hurry away to the mma gym next door.
Too much theory and not enough theory are 2 extremes. I wasn't interested in theory when I was young. One day I competed in a Karate tournament. My opponent stayed in a low stance with strong defense, and moved in inch by inch. I didn't see any opening to attack so I moved back, soon I had moved outside of the ring boundary. After I had moved out of the ring boundary twice, I lose that fight. I then asked my teacher and got involved with the 5 elements theory. When my opponent used the "earth" strategy, I should used the "wood" strategy. My arms and legs should function as the tree branches and attack my opponent from long range. Theory (or strategy) can offer idea how to deal with any particular situation by using our ancestor's experience/knowledge.
johnwang wrote:marvin8 wrote:why practice moves that only work if someone is not moving around?
If your opponent moves around, he is using the "fire" strategy. You should use the "water" strategy, let your opponent comes toward you, borrow his force, and counter him. In CMA, there are 5 major strategies "metal", "wood", "water", "fire", "earth". How you may fight depends on which strategy that your opponent may use to against you.
For example, if your opponent is a defensive and counter fighter and wait for you to come in by using the "water" strategy, you then should use "earth" strategy by moving in inch by inch until you can establish your leg bridge and arm bridge. This way since you are moving in slow (inch and inch), it will be difficult for him to borrow your force.
johnwang wrote:Trick wrote:In todays martial art/sport community, imagine telleng an aspiring pugilist about the importance of the strategies of the five elements, four gates/doors and so on to become a skilled fighter or just to learn self defence, i think they would soon hurry away to the mma gym next door.
Too much theory and not enough theory are 2 extremes. I wasn't interested in theory when I was young. One day I competed in a Karate tournament. My opponent stayed in a low stance with strong defense, and moved in inch by inch. I didn't see any opening to attack so I moved back, soon I had moved outside of the ring boundary. After I had moved out of the ring boundary twice, I lose that fight. I then asked my teacher and got involved with the 5 elements theory. When my opponent used the "earth" strategy, I should used the "wood" strategy. My arms and legs should function as the tree branches and attack my opponent from long range. Theory (or strategy) can offer idea how to deal with any particular situation by using our ancestor's experience/knowledge.
marvin8 wrote:Bao wrote:Trick wrote:Bao, your approach of step in make contact with legs i would never try against someone who are out to hurt me, but in a push hand exchange it works.
The question is about how the other person move. What did you mean, how do that person move and how do that person try to hurt me? I would say that in a competition environment or against a bouncer, it's very hard and sometime impossible. If you are fixated with the common sparring style kind of sparring where to people bounce around, no, this won't work. Just having that mind-set will probably mean that your timing will be off for this kind of move. This move is not something you chase, but your timing must be good. . . . This is a strategy for real fighting, not for bouncing around point sparring or under a competition rule set. But yes, you can use it for wrestling or PH as well. And yes, it's a strategy that works well if "someone is out to hurt you". But again, and as always, it depends on the situation and the movability of your opponent and on the environment as well. . . . But again, if someone is already jumping around free and try to keep distance, no a lot of these methods won't work.
Not sure if I am understanding correctly. However, why practice moves that only work if someone is not moving around? If you watch real fights. people move. As far as "Chinese" way or "IMA" strategy, modern fighting has a wide range of strategies including the "Chinese" or "IMA" way, depending on the opponent's strength(s) and weakness(s).
Here is an analysis of an upcoming fight Cormier vs Jackson. I do not see a lot of "bouncing" or "jumping." I see forward pressure, adhere, positioning, etc.
Published on Apr 3, 2017
In the first episode of Inside The Octagon for UFC 210, John Gooden and Dan Hardy analyze the light heavyweight rematch between champion Daniel Cormier and Anthony "Rumble" Johnson:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hij844Zualw
Bao wrote:This is a strategy for real fighting, not for bouncing around point sparring or under a competition rule set.. . . But again, and as always, it depends on the situation and the movability of your opponent and on the environment as well.
Bao wrote:Chinese traditional fighting strategy is different from the common western point-sparring or bouncing boxing type of jump-in-jump-out kind of fighting. Chinese traditional strategy is more about moving in, taking contact and stay with contact. It's much more practical and useful for real life fighting/ real combat strategy. But the modern jumping around, point sparring competition type of fighting seem to be etched strongly into everyone's mind.
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