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Re: Next Step in Training

PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 8:57 pm
by yeniseri
If one has had good instruction, then any next step should be intuitive to the practitioner.

The statement
I feel like he was deficient in helping me improve gua and dang integration with lower dantian.
does not mesh with a reality of entering, finishing strategy, your own physical conditioning (jibengong of some kind) and your interaction with your 'core' art. I realize I may be missing something but if the art after x years is not useful then it isn't necessarily the teacher. YOu just have to find one that is functional and has utility.

Re: Next Step in Training

PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 10:20 am
by Ron Panunto
greytowhite wrote:
I've been in a lot of real fights - not sport fights. I get attacked when we're out at bars semi-regularly just because I'm the small guy people want to show off by trying to beat on me


Maybe you should hang out at better bars. I'm a small guy too and have drank at thousands of bars in Philly and around the world in my 73 years and have never been attacked. Maybe it's you.

Re: Next Step in Training

PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 3:41 pm
by greytowhite
Ron Panunto wrote:Maybe you should hang out at better bars. I'm a small guy too and have drank at thousands of bars in Philly and around the world in my 73 years and have never been attacked. Maybe it's you.


Nope - I'm talking completely random attacks - no verbal exchange. It's the environment here in Phoenix. If you go to bars by Arizona State University there is inevitably someone who is too young and drunk that gets aggressive. If you go to bars near downtown Phoenix you then have to deal with meth addicted and drunken homeless people. In Mesa there is a strong White supremacy lean so as soon as someone hears me speak Spanish or something I get approached. In West Valley I don't even go to parties and bars because inevitably someone is pulling a gun. The place is a concealed carry state as long as you are legally able to own a gun. It's a different place and different culture than Philadelphia.

yeniseri wrote:If one has had good instruction, then any next step should be intuitive to the practitioner.

The statement
I feel like he was deficient in helping me improve gua and dang integration with lower dantian.
does not mesh with a reality of entering, finishing strategy, your own physical conditioning (jibengong of some kind) and your interaction with your 'core' art. I realize I may be missing something but if the art after x years is not useful then it isn't necessarily the teacher. YOu just have to find one that is functional and has utility.


I'm not the only student who felt this way - I've already found a new IMA instructor and still plan to interact with other styles regularly.

Re: Next Step in Training

PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:34 am
by Ron Panunto
Jesus Grey to White, I thought only aged retirees lived in Phoenix. It sounds pretty bad out there. Well I know where I'm NOT retiring!

Re: Next Step in Training

PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:41 am
by Taste of Death
Ron Panunto wrote:Jesus Grey to White, I thought only aged retirees lived in Phoenix. It sounds pretty bad out there. Well I know where I'm NOT retiring!


Ron, remember Gov. Brewer?

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/The-Vote/2010/0904/Jan-Brewer-corrects-the-record-on-headless-bodies-in-the-desert

Re: Next Step in Training

PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:18 pm
by greytowhite
Ron Panunto wrote:Jesus Grey to White, I thought only aged retirees lived in Phoenix. It sounds pretty bad out there. Well I know where I'm NOT retiring!


Still doesn't compare to where I grew up in Stockton. I've got a shirt that literally says, "You can't scare me I was born in Stockton." The Diaz brothers know how to fight for a reason - most of us Stocktonians do.

Re: Next Step in Training

PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:49 pm
by GrahamB
I think BJJ is calling you, but that's going to take $$$$s...

Re: Next Step in Training

PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 3:18 pm
by greytowhite
GrahamB wrote:I think BJJ is calling you, but that's going to take $$$$s...


Yeah we may be able to get a "family" package for three people at the local BJJ gym. Although I've touched hands with a few students from there - they couldn't get me to the ground and had serious lack in their stand up game. I haven't tried anything with high ranked people there yet.