No offense, but why is this interesting? I hope you don't mind if I ramble as I tend to do. This kind of exercise has been going around the block for over 1,000 years, it is pretty well known, like pak da or chi sao in wing chun. Such exercises are the precursor to pushing hands, but the theory and bodywork are 90 degrees off-course from what we see in this video. Here's something similar:
(https://youtu.be/6eedxyuche0 ; seems to be a problem with embedding youtube atm)
The only thing I see in these videos is people who are doing what might otherwise be labeled as external martial arts. The goal is different. Why should we care what goes on in a Choy Li Fut school? I am sure they do have some internal work going on in the 140+ forms that are a part of the official CLF system. I just don't understand what it is in particular is so attractive in their approach versus Tai Chi's.
Actually it wasn't put very well at all, he was quite rude and showed antagonism towards me because I was talking about IMA.
Your comments on crosstraining are bad advice and when pressed you don't explain your position you just say HTFU. How about no?
Appledog wrote:No offense, but why is this interesting? I hope you don't mind if I ramble as I tend to do. This kind of exercise has been going around the block for over 1,000 years, it is pretty well known, like pak da or chi sao in wing chun. Such exercises are the precursor to pushing hands, but the theory and bodywork are 90 degrees off-course from what we see in this video. Here's something similar:
(https://youtu.be/6eedxyuche0 ; seems to be a problem with embedding youtube atm)
dspyrido wrote:BTW Choi Song Ting's focus on internal has IMO done more to destroy WC's ability to fight than anything else I have seen. Because of the "go internal" many WC people got disillusioned with the styles ability to fight. Those that stuck it out where happy to concentrate on sil lum tao and sticking hands which was the reason they could stop doing push ups on knuckles, hundreds of kicks & punches and free sparing. So a whole layer of combative people walked out the door and left the ones more inclined to take it easy and focus on being more internal. The outcome was a little sad to see.
But what is even sadder was that so many WC internalists failed to understand that Choi Song Ting also spent countless hours throwing thousands of punches, hundreds of kicks, doing many squats, lifting weight in the form of the butterfly knives and the pole.
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