Re: Re-upload of my Master's Yang shi Taijiquan Form..
Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 9:16 pm
really liked it.
dedicated to the discussion of the chinese internal martial arts of xingyiquan, baguazhang, taijiquan, related arts, and anything else best discussed over a bottle of rum
http://rumsoakedfist.org/
johnwang wrote:MaartenSFS wrote:功夫就是一横一竖。。
TCMA is as simple as:
- fist meets face.
- head meets ground.
johnwang wrote:MaartenSFS wrote:功夫就是一横一竖。。
TCMA is as simple as:
- fist meets face.
- head meets ground.
windwalker wrote:MaartenSFS wrote:He doesn't care what it's called, honestly.
I ask because it leads to comments like this
By naming it, it will be judged by the standards of "yang's" taiji which will prompt comments.Bao on Mon Jun 26, 2017 4:46 pm
It's not even something close to Yang Tai Chi. But it's still a nice performance and he seems to be good at whatever he is doing.
I call what I found “no name taiji” rather then name it, feeling by doing so it would tend to confine the freedom to a set of expectations apart from the experience. One does not play taiji, one becomes what others view and feel as taiji.
For the one playing there really is no name, it is.
Your teacher has a unique flavor, and expresses it well.
everything wrote:johnwang wrote:MaartenSFS wrote:功夫就是一横一竖。。
TCMA is as simple as:
- fist meets face.
- head meets ground.
very helpful
Bao wrote:windwalker wrote:MaartenSFS wrote:He doesn't care what it's called, honestly.
I ask because it leads to comments like this
By naming it, it will be judged by the standards of "yang's" taiji which will prompt comments.Bao on Mon Jun 26, 2017 4:46 pm
It's not even something close to Yang Tai Chi. But it's still a nice performance and he seems to be good at whatever he is doing.
I call what I found “no name taiji” rather then name it, feeling by doing so it would tend to confine the freedom to a set of expectations apart from the experience. One does not play taiji, one becomes what others view and feel as taiji.
For the one playing there really is no name, it is.
Your teacher has a unique flavor, and expresses it well.
Again, I think his teacher certainly have skill. I like some parts of the performance quite a lot. There's a good whole body power and whole body movement shown there as well as very good coordination over all. This teacher has dedicated himself to his arts over a very long time. You can see that he moves very naturally and coordinate his movements perfectly natural. There's certainly skill behind it. But calling it Tai ChI? ....
If you want to call something Tai Chi, nameless or not, there should IMHO be something there that could be called Tai Chi. If the body method is something else, then it's something else. A Yang Tai Chi form should is performed with unbroken movement, there is no glitch between movements. The centerline is always kept intact, regardless if there's leaning or if the spine has movement. I could make quite a long list how this teacher breaks basic Tai Chi body movement and Yang especially. If someone has practiced Tai Chi body methods for a long time, there will always be Tai Chi body movement present, even if he or she breaks "rules" or creates an own version of the art. Foundation cannot be faked. This teacher might know external Tai Chi movements, but he has never focused on Tai Chi practice and his heart belongs somewhere else. And there's absolutely nothing wrong with this. A man should have his heart where it wants to be. I respect the skills I see. But mimicking something you don't understand doesn't serve any kind of purpose than exposing your weaknesses and limitations.
Because of respect for certain arts and the practitioners thereof, I would never try to perform such as a Wing Chun or Choylifut form even if I could certainly learn the movements well. There are styles of Bagua and Xingyi I keep away from as well. I could never embrace the spirit of these schools. Even if some skill would show through, the flavour and essence of these arts would completely escape me and it would show in a performance to a degree that I would only be embarrassed of. IMHO, you should understand your limits and act accordingly.
Bao wrote:johnwang wrote:MaartenSFS wrote:功夫就是一横一竖。。
TCMA is as simple as:
- fist meets face.
- head meets ground.
Indeed.
But you still need the "A" to spell TCMA. And the A is there for a reason.
MaartenSFS wrote:It's just a hybrid of Taijiquan and Tanglangquan. There is also Bagua Taijiquan and Sun Shi Taijiquan is a hybrid of Taijiquan and Xingyiquan. There are no pure styles! What matters is whether or not the teacher you are studying with can fight and teach you how to do so!
Trick wrote:Can not see the video, but when you say it is not YTJQ then I believe that. But calling something Tai Chi/Taiji, why not ?, think i read in another thread here about Taiji Tanglangquan, I have no idea how it looks, i believe it has nothing to do with TJQ but is a respected style of CMA.
MaartenSFS wrote:. There are no pure styles! What matters is whether or not the teacher you are studying with can fight and teach you how to do so!
MaartenSFS wrote:It's just a hybrid of Taijiquan and Tanglangquan. There is also Bagua Taijiquan and Sun Shi Taijiquan is a hybrid of Taijiquan and Xingyiquan. There are no pure styles! What matters is whether or not the teacher you are studying with can fight and teach you how to do so!