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Suspend your crotch

Postby Yeung on Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:56 am

Diào dāng 吊襠 or 吊裆 is translated as "Suspend your crotch" by Paul Brennan from the Taijiquan Treatise:

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涵胸 拔背 裹襠 護肫 提頂 吊襠 騰挪 閃戰

– Contain your chest.
– Pluck up your back.
– Wrap your crotch.
– Shield your belly.
– Lift your headtop.
– Suspend your crotch.
– Always be ready.
– Get it over with in a flash.

There is a misconception between dang 襠 and kua 胯, kua is crotch while dang should be that something between your legs. Hanging that something between your legs should be the correct translation. The concept of wrap your crotch should be translate as wrap that something between your legs as well.
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Re: Suspend your crotch

Postby everything on Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:13 am

Not following you. Could you attempt a more elaborated translation / interpretation?
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Re: Suspend your crotch

Postby MaartenSFS on Thu Jul 06, 2017 1:14 am

胯 means hip.
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Re: Suspend your crotch

Postby GrahamB on Thu Jul 06, 2017 1:37 am

"– Get it over with in a flash."

I have no problem attaining this requirement.
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Re: Suspend your crotch

Postby Dmitri on Thu Jul 06, 2017 4:37 am

So does "wrap the crotch" + "suspend the crotch" = "tight underwear"? ;D

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Re: Suspend your crotch

Postby Strange on Thu Jul 06, 2017 5:04 am

do you know what to do with the nipples?
does this mean the balls and cock?
or just the balls alone?
or do you mean the cock only?
is pointing the cock to the left better? or right?
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Re: Suspend your crotch

Postby robert on Thu Jul 06, 2017 12:48 pm

MaartenSFS wrote:胯 means hip.

I prefer that, I've seen things like one kua is open and the other is closed. I have two hips, but only one crotch.

There are some terms that seem technical or don't have an equivalent english translation and in that case I think it's best if pinyin is used - kua, dang, yao, and so on.
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Re: Suspend your crotch

Postby meeks on Tue Jul 25, 2017 10:29 pm

Yeung wrote:Diào dāng 吊襠 or 吊裆 is translated as "Suspend your crotch" by Paul Brennan from the Taijiquan Treatise:

BODY STANDARDS
涵胸 拔背 裹襠 護肫 提頂 吊襠 騰挪 閃戰

– Contain your chest.
– Pluck up your back.
– Wrap your crotch.
– Shield your belly.
– Lift your headtop.
– Suspend your crotch.
– Always be ready.
– Get it over with in a flash.

There is a misconception between dang 襠 and kua 胯, kua is crotch while dang should be that something between your legs. Hanging that something between your legs should be the correct translation. The concept of wrap your crotch should be translate as wrap that something between your legs as well.


I respectfully disagree with your translation.
Kua = hip. Dang = groin/crotch

just borrowing this image from some website but they are correct:
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There is also 'yan dang' (掩裆)which means 'cover the crotch' (part of what creates the effect of 'scissor legs') which wouldn't mean much if it translated as 'cover the hips'...

just like 'ti kua' (on each step in bagua) means 'lift the hip' not 'lift your groin' to move the leg. I noticed you have another thread called 'kua' where you re-iterate kua is groin and dang is hip - I'll just leave this here - not interested in double posting.
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Re: Suspend your crotch

Postby Yeung on Thu Jul 27, 2017 4:11 am

Interesting idea from:

http://52taiji.blog.sohu.com/145687863.html

The author did not provide sufficient information to make it workable but it would be interesting to hear any comment from people follow such idea without any verification. 
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Re: Suspend your crotch

Postby meeks on Fri Jul 28, 2017 11:20 am

Yeung wrote:Interesting idea from:

http://52taiji.blog.sohu.com/145687863.html

The author did not provide sufficient information to make it workable but it would be interesting to hear any comment from people follow such idea without any verification. 


sounds like you should start a different thread for this so this one stays on topic
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Re: Suspend your crotch

Postby Yeung on Sat Jul 29, 2017 9:44 am

This seems to be a psychological phenomenon of how people perceive their buttocks, a good topic for a new thread.
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