Appledog wrote:MaartenSFS wrote:99.9% of Taijiquan is moving Yoga (really Qigong). And most wouldn't even know that it's a martial art. Most Chinese don't know it...
Appledog, that's utterly preposterous.. Qi by itself is just air... Is that what's missing??? Do try to keep up!
I was mulling over a variety of ways to respond to this and I realized the difficulty was in trying to respond constructively, because as you said yourself you 'don't give a fuck about tai chi'. So if I am going to try to add information to the discussion there are not a lot of ways to do so while staying on topic. But that is in fact the issue here, which you are bringing to a head. You don't do tai chi, you 'don't give a fuck about tai chi', and you don't even seem to understand what I said about qi in a general sense. Why are you here, Maarten? What is it exactly do you want out of this discussion?
Well for sure we're touching on something here. In regards "qi"..
Forget Maarten for a moment, he's not a tai chi guy, obviously. Well not yet anyway.
But as you are probably aware there are a fair few tai chi / CIMA people who are all about the woo woo free narrative.
Anything that veers near esoterica, be it spiritual, energetic. Well you may as well set a hornets nest on them they instinctively (perhaps) want to run a mile from it.
I probably find that as 'mad' as you do.
Which reminds me, and I suppose, brings us back round to a discussion Charles was having with you I presume. Someone anyway, i think it may have been in one of those threads you had a prolonged discussion. But his example was of CXW telling students their belief was not important, or how they beleived or how they interpreted (should that be re interpreted?) qi. They could still learn and practice to high levels (one presumes). Was he just being nice, did he really really mean it. Does he even really know. I think he may have a good point, but It may depend. Different strokes for different folks. But maybe everyone has room for improvement, and sometimes it could take something significant to change - everyone hits platues for example.
I guess it is about levels.. I'm not sure personally how much better you might or might not get changing ones perspective vs. others. That's rather hard. What can be easier is to gauge ones personal changes and growth in relation to ones own changes in perspective, paradigms.. that kind of thing.