johnwang wrote:
Which training method do you prefer and why?
Bao wrote:Some styles tend to hide possible applications. You can change your form and make any possible application explicit. It's up to you.
cloudz wrote:you seem to suggest is that one is 'better' than the other, or more useful ...
Trick wrote:I'm quite sure all gongfu/wushu practice seem more or less abstract to for example an practitioner of (western)boxing. However, when I go through my TJQ routines it feels very concrete.
Bao wrote:You can take a 20 movements form and drag it out to 200 movements if you want. You can turn a piece of wood into an oxe or a crane. It's up to you how you want to use the raw material that is there.
But only for a move as brush knee, there are maybe one hundred basic applications and a hell lot of variations of every basic app, so if you want to show and make every variation concrete, your form is going to be pretty long and take many hours to complete. So do you always need to make everything concrete? If you want to practice arm drag one day, you focus on that movement and make it explicit and concrete. So there's a good reason to have inexplicit applications and hide others. If you remember where they are and what you can do with it, you can take it out anytime you want and practice it.
cloudz wrote:If you want my opinion; My view of it I feel is far less technique-centric than yours. That in turn will feed into each of our views about abstratct training in MA; moreso when it comes to form - which is the example you have chosen to illustrate your topic.
cloudz wrote:I hope you get better replies than I have been able to offer.
RobP3 wrote:Trick wrote:I'm quite sure all gongfu/wushu practice seem more or less abstract to for example an practitioner of (western)boxing. However, when I go through my TJQ routines it feels very concrete.
When I play air guitar it sounds great
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