robert wrote:The idea that footwork is some how lacking in taiji is obviously a troll
wayne hansen wrote:
He pointed to where I was standing and said
If you can't defend this bit of ground here what makes you think you can defend any other spot
So he taught me how to absorb pressure on the spot and when to leave that spot and return
everything wrote:wayne hansen wrote:
He pointed to where I was standing and said
If you can't defend this bit of ground here what makes you think you can defend any other spot
So he taught me how to absorb pressure on the spot and when to leave that spot and return
But this strength is also the exact problem with this approach. When we look at the baguazhang (or boxing) clips, thnere are so clearly multiple layers of defense happening so there is much less likely chance you are "stuck". It doesn't assume you "Defend the spot", then move and "defend another spot". It's all happening at once. Their entire solo form ("walking the circle") embeds all of this different approach. This has nothing to do with whether someone "learned the complete system"; it has to do with a strategic difference. Unless you are really, really, unbelievably good at the skill level to "Defend the spot" as some people are in fixed step push hands, taijiquan just doesn't really have the same level of footwork --- unless we claim it's all in hidden "complete" training, which no one ever claims --- then why don't they show their great footwork. They don't. They show great fixed step stuff (which is great for other reasons - the primary reasons why taiji is great: enough skill at this "defend the spot" and who needs fancy footwork). It isn't that hard. It's in boxing clips, baguazhang clips, mma clips, basketball clips, football/soccer/rugby clips. It's in the MJ clip.
robert wrote:FWIW in Chen style it's easy to find examples of various moving step push hands.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9rC-HCtGko
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5IcDZQCMls
I recently did some workshops with Chen Ziqiang; one was on push hands. We did single hand PHs, single hand with stepping, and learned a chinna.
oragami_itto wrote:That's "advance" all right
johnwang wrote:oragami_itto wrote:That's "advance" all right
Some side way footwork can be like this.
oragami_itto wrote:The opponent responded with Center, calmly waiting for the real attack.
johnwang wrote:oragami_itto wrote:The opponent responded with Center, calmly waiting for the real attack.
This is why you don't want your opponent to be able to "respond with center, calmly waiting for the real attack".
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