johnwang wrote:Agree! If you can't use Peng Jin to kill your opponent, what's the value of training it? .
C.J.W. wrote:Peng jin is very much like Qi in the sense that everyone you talk to will likely have a different take on what it is. It's also more associated with Taiji. Other systems I've come across usually refer to Peng jin as Hunyuanli 渾元力 or zhengjin 整勁.
In the simplest terms, I'd say it is the state that the body is in when the major joints are opened and relaxed with fascia stretched and engaged. When properly done, the whole body becomes one stable unit that is able to better receive and neutralize incoming force for defense, and launch powerful strikes since more body mass is recruited.
Trick wrote:johnwang wrote:Agree! If you can't use Peng Jin to kill your opponent, what's the value of training it? .
A smooth and non aggressive Peng Jin comes handy in the crowded subway and as here in China when to get out from an elevator and have to face the "can't wait" in going crowd, it's great practice
windwalker wrote:Trick wrote:johnwang wrote:Agree! If you can't use Peng Jin to kill your opponent, what's the value of training it? .
A smooth and non aggressive Peng Jin comes handy in the crowded subway and as here in China when to get out from an elevator and have to face the "can't wait" in going crowd, it's great practice
ah the people jams, in the subway....Found it to be amazing experience in beijing.
In Taiwan they have scooter jams....a little different can be a very focusing experience.
Fa Xing wrote:Discussing this with Tim Cartmell on Friday, he states that people seem to confuse peng jin (upward force) with zheng ti jin (whole body power). Big difference.
wayne hansen wrote:The incoming force is the boat
oragami_itto wrote:Upward and Downward aren't necesarrily the direction of the hand or a particular expression of force. Up like water holds up a boat, your body's the boat. Another way of looking at could be that its an expression of whats called normal force. ie perpendicular force, in the case of water this is expressed as buoyancy. A displacement of an equal amount of water. The confusion might be with how much, and the fact the object is alive.
Words fail only when something is not thought through.
Bao wrote:Fa Xing wrote:Discussing this with Tim Cartmell on Friday, he states that people seem to confuse peng jin (upward force) with zheng ti jin (whole body power). Big difference.
Great point with zhengtijin from Master Cartmell. Though, if upwards force is Tim’s definition of pengjin, I would love to hear how pengjin is expressed in your Sun form, because in the Sun Jianyun standard form, almost all movements are perfectly horizontal.
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