Aquiring wooden poles in the States?

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Re: Aquiring wooden poles in the States?

Postby LaoDan on Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:57 am

Although rattan and bamboo can look similar, they are very different. Bamboo is hollow and difficult to bend (thus susceptible to shattering from pole shaking), but rattan is solid, durable and can be flexed. Rattan should hold up well for pole shaking.
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Re: Aquiring wooden poles in the States?

Postby taiwandeutscher on Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:15 pm

Yes, rattan can be used, but don't get the skinned type, too soft! And if you train with longer poles, there is only waxwood, quite a different quality, as it give much stronger feedback than rattan!
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Re: Aquiring wooden poles in the States?

Postby MaartenSFS on Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:36 pm

Interesting.. Would you say that a short rattan pole of around two metres in length would give me enough weight and feedback compared to waxwood?

It seems like the rattan pole on Kungfu Direct is skinned, though? Does that matter at this short length?
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Re: Aquiring wooden poles in the States?

Postby taiwandeutscher on Tue Jan 30, 2018 5:51 pm

Of course, the waxwood is sturdier, heavier, gives a better work-out and feedback, and basically you can't ruin them (if healthy & worm-free), friends back in EU even bought waxwoods to make bokken, lol!

Here in Taiwan we put them into Tong oil (we get plastic pipes, seal them both ends and put in 3, 4 waxwoods, fill with oil and let them soak for 6 months) to make them even heavier.

Surely, both rattan and waxwood in 2m length are affordable, so I would get both, and as you plan to teach, you always will have to start beginners with lighter staffs. I have many poles, short, middle and very long, can't have enough, lol!
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Re: Aquiring wooden poles in the States?

Postby Dale Dugas on Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:41 pm

Dale here.

I have Kung Fu Direct and their long pole is decent for pole shaking but its a tad on the thinner side of what you are looking for.

Bruce Bao at Everything Wu Shu in China is a great contact for weapons. http://www.everythingwushu.com/h-col-113.html

I have more hardwood long poles. Southern Nut I am....
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Re: Aquiring wooden poles in the States?

Postby Dale Dugas on Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:47 pm

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Re: Aquiring wooden poles in the States?

Postby MaartenSFS on Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:17 pm

Thanks for your input, guys. I will measure my Master's staff that I've been using and possibly weigh it if I can find a way and make a decision. ;D
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