When form is doin` you

[windwalker]

Since being bipedal is 'unnatural' anything we do after crawling is unnatural. Along the way we learn to use tools, walk upright etc all unnatural but necessary to function in a modern world. In doing so we may cause smaller muscle groups to atrophy, internal work brings back a more complete body movement rather than isolating movements to one part of the body.

Are you suggesting that something humans are designed to do, have evolved do, is unnatural

a learned behavior..?

Humans are bipedal, freeing and allowing the use of hands. All a natural product of evolution.

[wiesiek]

..."The state of spontaneous movement wiesiek is talking about has him connecting a 'non-martial' qigong to whatever martial content is found in the form he practices....
Would like to straight up , a little,
Bruce,
MA contents of my "side loops" seems to be new aspect/not known technique , /quite often /,
This is what I found most interesting.
so,
my shot is, that TJQ "long forms" was born like this, kinda of natural way - from simple qigong practice ...

[wiesiek]

and
I`m not arguin` with Toru Takamizawa statement,
just
right now , I better understand , that skilled move can be trained quite differently, seemingly, even remotely not connected, ..

[BruceP]

..."The state of spontaneous movement wiesiek is talking about has him connecting a 'non-martial' qigong to whatever martial content is found in the form he practices....
Would like to straight up , a little,
Bruce,
MA contents of my "side loops" seems to be new aspect/not known technique , /quite often /,
This is what I found most interesting.
so,
my shot is, that TJQ "long forms" was born like this, kinda of natural way - from simple qigong practice ...

and
I`m not arguin` with Toru Takamizawa statement,
just
right now , I better understand , that skilled move can be trained quite differently, seemingly, even remotely not connected, ..

Brilliant

No different than playing catch with a tennis ball. or a fist-sized stone. Stone catch used to be a thing, you know? Better when friends play

[wiesiek]

I will call it >Brilliant< after reality check ,
let`s say - at Police JJ dojo, block away from my place

[wiesiek]

I would like to report, that those strange "side martial loops/forms" in my form disappears as suddenly as started.
I returned to the "businesses as usual " state,
but
something change, kinda of strange feeling come to play - " turning bones independently from the neighboring joints " -
-seems to be the best description .