nicklinjm wrote:IMHO people looking for 'old' Yang style should concentrate on the Tian Zhaolin / Ye Dami lineages, which have preserved a much more comprehensive training syllabus than 'modern' Yang style.
Trick wrote:nicklinjm wrote:IMHO people looking for 'old' Yang style should concentrate on the Tian Zhaolin / Ye Dami lineages, which have preserved a much more comprehensive training syllabus than 'modern' Yang style.
I read somewhere that Zheng Manqing initially learned from Ye Dami but later was introduced to study with Yang Chengfu ?
Shinobi wrote:I recently found a couple of photos of Yang Zhaopeng (good looking man!), son of Yang Banhou. Is there much known about him on here? Who was mostly responsible for his training? Was he a known fighter like his father and grandfather? It'd be good to know more about him; I like reading about the first three generations of the Yang family.
Another name I was wondering about is Yang Zhensheng, son of Yang Shaohou, although unlike Zhaopeng I'm not even sure he was involved in Tai Chi at all.
Bao wrote:Trick wrote:nicklinjm wrote:IMHO people looking for 'old' Yang style should concentrate on the Tian Zhaolin / Ye Dami lineages, which have preserved a much more comprehensive training syllabus than 'modern' Yang style.
I read somewhere that Zheng Manqing initially learned from Ye Dami but later was introduced to study with Yang Chengfu ?
Zheng studied first with Ye Dami and his training partner Xiao Zhongbo and was later introduced to YCF by his teacher Liu Yongchen (student of YCF). So probably Zheng was originally introduced to the Jianhou/Shaohou tradition before he went on studying with YCF.
Edit:
You have a long thread about this subject with good sources in the Yang Family Discussion board: http://www.yangfamilytaichi.com/phpBB3/ ... ?f=1&t=183
Trick wrote:Thanks for that link, interesting it says that Tian Zhaolin too was a disciple of YCF.
I have this " hunch" that the YCF linage(s) is as original and complete as I gets and I don't mean that I a bad way
Bao wrote:I have this " hunch" that the YCF linage(s) is as original and complete as I gets and I don't mean that I a bad way
I have never seen the very low ("large") frame, small frame or "lift leg" frame from any direct YCF lineage. Well, he might have been all too fat for the "below the table" frame... (In fact, he became too fat to perform "reach for the needle at the see bottom", which is the very reason that many YCF style practitioners never reach their hands below the knee in this posture as they see photos of YCF's posture.)
The Yang family today focus almost only on the YCF tradition and seems mostly to be concerned about continuing to popularise Tai Chi. Most of what is taught as YCF Tai Chi seems to me rather shallow and simplistic compared to a lot of other Tai Chi traditions.
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