Re: Make your push into a throw
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:04 pm
Not such an easy thing when you have a ball in one hand and anything up to 4 people might be tackling you from any direction from your shoulders down to your ankles
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marvin8 wrote:wiesiek wrote:..."I was thinking more of pushing or pulling, then borrow opponent's reaction force to finish (action/reaction)..."
so,
this is push +,
and basically
we are speakin` about the same thing.
It would be easier to understand you if you simply answer the question.marvin8 wrote:wiesiek wrote:demoing endless pushes is pointless on the forum,
it my present understanding is . . .
I love it!
we are diggin` in the deepest roots of the Chinese philosophy....
let`s agree, that push is like foreplay ,
important and basic,
BUT
it is only prelude in most of the real cases,
so
over-focusing here,- deadly mistake.
Push/pull is like yin/yang in "Chinese philosophy," as mentioned in the article. Is it your opinion that yin/yang (push/pull), JW, and GM Chang are "over-focusing here,- deadly mistake?"
wiesiek wrote:wiesiek wrote:marvin8 wrote:..."I was thinking more of pushing or pulling, then borrow opponent's reaction force to finish (action/reaction)..."
so,
this is push +,
and basically
we are speakin` about the same thing.marvin8 wrote:??? It would be easier to understand you if you simply answer the question.
demoing endless pushes is pointless on the forum,
it my present understanding is . . .
I love it!
we are diggin` in the deepest roots of the Chinese philosophy....
let`s agree, that push is like foreplay ,
important and basic,
BUT
it is only prelude in most of the real cases,
so
over-focusing here,- deadly mistake.marvin8 wrote:Push/pull is like yin/yang in "Chinese philosophy," as mentioned in the article. Is it your opinion that yin/yang (push/pull), JW, and GM Chang are "over-focusing here,- deadly mistake?"
ok,
if you like dig and split a hear, :
demoing endless pushes is pointless on the forum,
90% PH demos are all about:
absorbing the push, and ...>push back,
nothing wrong with using it as the training tool,
but
we are here all kindergartens graduates, I suppose
so,
forgive me,
continuously posting it, doesn`t bring noting interesting.
let`s agree, that push is like foreplay ,
wiesiek wrote:strange, that you need an explanation here, :
anyway, it is easy -
a/ you push - no reaction , you adding the leg and finish the throw
b/ you push - reaction > you go follow , adding the pull/twist and finish the throw
over-focusing here,- deadly mistake.
wiesiek wrote:marvin8 wrote:Push/pull is like yin/yang in "Chinese philosophy," as mentioned in the article. Is it your opinion that yin/yang (push/pull), JW, and GM Chang are "over-focusing here,- deadly mistake?"
starting point was just the "push", then, do I need more typing?
just in the case, if you`re not fully satisfied :
yin need yang
action-reaction
no action - no reaction
so,
you have to start something, then you
PUSH,
again, we are speakin` about begging point, and keepin` the discussion in the begging point is ... well, pointless
wiesiek wrote:For successfully executed throw you need fulfill all the principles,
YES or NO ?
NO
if somebody is nice, and will help you on one or more points...
/look on my post with seoinage ,shoulder throw w/o the hands /
johnwang wrote:That rugby clip remind me some Aikido clips, there are too much force that you can borrow from your opponent. In reality, your opponent won't let you to borrow his force that easy.