Empty Force Challenge

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Re: Empty Force Challenge

Postby johnwang on Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:57 pm

windwalker wrote:
johnwang wrote:Will EF work on non-human objects such as a throwing dummy?

no

Thanks for the straight forward answer. But why? Will you be able to explain it?
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Re: Empty Force Challenge

Postby windwalker on Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:06 pm

johnwang wrote:Thanks for the straight forward answer. But why? Will you be able to explain it?


The clip I posted of Master Gao, explianed quite well. My
Explanation would not be much different.

Assuming you can understand Chinese, what part of his clip did you not understand.
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Re: Empty Force Challenge

Postby johnwang on Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:11 pm

windwalker wrote:
johnwang wrote:Thanks for the straight forward answer. But why? Will you be able to explain it?


The clip I posted of Master Gao, explianed quite well. My
Explanation would not be much different.

Assuming you can understand Chinese, what part of his clip did you not understand.

But I'm asking you. Will you be able to explain it within 20 words? Why EF cannot move no-human object?
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Re: Empty Force Challenge

Postby origami_itto on Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:13 pm

In English would be nice.
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Re: Empty Force Challenge

Postby windwalker on Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:20 pm

johnwang wrote:But I'm asking you. Will you be able to explain it within 20 words? Why EF cannot move no-human object?


Yes in English please.
The clip answers it, I even had it translated maybe the translation was not clear.

Can you address what was said in Chinese that you seem to have problems understanding. I'm asking you.
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Re: Empty Force Challenge

Postby windwalker on Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:24 pm

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oragami_itto wrote:In English would be nice.



Ever wonder why native speakers who perfectly understand what is being said never seem to address any of the questions about what is said.
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Re: Empty Force Challenge

Postby johnwang on Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:44 pm

windwalker wrote:
johnwang wrote:But I'm asking you. Will you be able to explain it within 20 words? Why EF cannot move no-human object?

The clip answers it, I even had it translated maybe the translation was not clear.

Can you address what was said in Chinese that you seem to have problems understanding. I'm asking you.

Do you always like to play this kind of indirect game? Can you be straight forward just one time? Is that too much to ask for?
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Re: Empty Force Challenge

Postby windwalker on Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:03 pm

johnwang wrote:Do you always like to play this kind of indirect game? Can you be straight forward just one time? Is that too much to ask for?


As soon as you address what he said on the clip that you have issues with in English .

Should be no problem discussion it. Might even open it up for others to share their own view s.

Is this to much to ask?
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Re: Empty Force Challenge

Postby windwalker on Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:12 pm

oragami_itto wrote:In English would be nice.


See how it works. Those most vocal about it who perfectly understand what is being said in their native language won't address it povideing a unique perspective that only they might have.

Why is that
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Re: Empty Force Challenge

Postby origami_itto on Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:41 pm

I prefer not to mind read. Be not afraid. Speak your understanding
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Re: Empty Force Challenge

Postby Appledog on Wed Jun 27, 2018 7:28 pm

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Re: Empty Force Challenge

Postby windwalker on Wed Jun 27, 2018 8:39 pm

It's very simple JW.

Post the parts of the clips translation that you feel you don't understand we can have a conversation about that.

He mentioned field. What is the field he talks about..
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Re: Empty Force Challenge

Postby johnwang on Wed Jun 27, 2018 9:42 pm

windwalker wrote:Post the parts of the clips translation that you feel you don't understand we can have a conversation about that..

He didn't say whether EF can be used on non-human object or not. What had happed here?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goPpb-W ... e=youtu.be
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Re: Empty Force Challenge

Postby windwalker on Wed Jun 27, 2018 9:54 pm

What happened to your understanding.
He didn't say EF either.
Why do say, what he didn't say.

It's ok, kinda expected.

I posted and ask a question about the clip with teacher Gao, you post another clip showing his teacher.
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Re: Empty Force Challenge

Postby johnwang on Wed Jun 27, 2018 10:06 pm

johnwang wrote:What had happed here?

windwalker wrote:What happened to your understanding.

A: What had happened there?
B: What happened to your understanding?
A: What do you think my understanding should be?
B: What's your understanding to my understanding of your understanding?
A: ... :-\

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goPpb-W ... e=youtu.be
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