Yang Shaohou's legacy and sociological insight

[yeniseri]

I like this fellow's perspective and attention to detail that few of us (Including myself) lack but I realize the veracity of his
words are polar opposites of what some of us were taught. He is refreshing in bringing the real day to day life of a few practitioners!
Check out his perspective and enjoy!

[origami_itto]

Interesting story. Kind of a low bar for "fact". This dude should go into business as a shrink, he's got that much detail about the root cause of Yang Shao Hou's depression figured out. Amazing work. Five stars.

[Doc Stier]

Interesting story. Kind of a low bar for "fact". This dude should go into business as a shrink, he's got that much detail about the root cause of Yang Shao Hou's depression figured out. Amazing work. Five stars.

I know, right! There has to be more to the true story if a man kills himself when nobody else can. Just saying!

[origami_itto]

Interesting story. Kind of a low bar for "fact". This dude should go into business as a shrink, he's got that much detail about the root cause of Yang Shao Hou's depression figured out. Amazing work. Five stars.

I know, right! There has to be more to the true story if a man kills himself when nobody else can. Just saying!

I mean... clearly it's because his brother's students weren't training hard enough.

[Doc Stier]

Haha! I think there was no love lost between these two brothers. Shao-hou undoubtedly saw Cheng-fu as the quintessential younger brother from hell, pampered and coddled growing up, yet incredibly large and powerful, more popular and more successful. What's not to hate about all that?

[origami_itto]

Haha! I think there was no love lost between these two brothers. Shao-hou undoubtedly saw Cheng-fu as the quintessential younger brother from hell, incredibly large and powerful, more popular and more successful. What's not to hate about all that?

I imagine Shao Hou Sitting at his vanity, combing his hair, saying "Why does everybody love CHENG FU?! It's always ChengFu ChengFu ChengFu!"

[wayne hansen]

So many mistakes and assumptions in the first two minutes I couldn’t watch anymore

[everything]

Can’t watch if that’s what you guys say about it

[GrahamB]

It's worth watching because he translates a newspaper article about it from the time, however, there's also a lot of speculation presented as fact from somebody who wasn't there...

[Shinobi]

Oooh I'll listen to that later.

Liang Dehua recently referenced an 'incident' behind this that occurred months after Shaohou left Beijing but won't reveal anymore.

[Yuen-Ming]

The YouTuber here is relying on one of my Facebook posts on the topic. I have posted and translated a number of original sources that draw a precise picture of the situation at the time in case somebody wants top read more. Maybe check for ‘Yang Shaohou” under my FB account.

[origami_itto]

We don't do facebook, you should bring them here.

[YMAA Cape Cod]

I only made it two minutes also. He's...just wrong. When Yang, Cheng-fu (楊澄甫) was traveling and teaching in 20s - 30s, it was a period of battle between the communist party and Chiang Kai-shek (from 1928 - 49). Many teachers hid their skills, both in fighting and healing, to avoid various kinds of trouble with the communists. But Yang, Cheng-fu was a lineage holder with a responsibility to teach everything he had learned. He DID have indoor disciples who secretly learned and preserved the martial aspects of taijiquan, the most well-known of which was Dong, Yingjie (董英傑) who also learned from Lu-Chan. The arts and forms from those chaotic years are fractured and confusing, like the "Dong" style he created and our own "old" Yang form at YMAA.

[charles]

He DID have indoor disciples who secretly learned and preserved the martial aspects of taijiquan, the most well-known of which was Dong, Yingjie (董英傑) who also learned from Lu-Chan.

That's the first I've heard that Dong Yingjie studied with Yang Luchan. Any sources for this information?

[YMAA Cape Cod]

His grandson's video tells the story, Dong Zengchen: