The Heart and Spine are Important

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The Heart and Spine are Important

Postby origami_itto on Sat Feb 24, 2024 5:09 pm

The Heart and Spine in Tai Chi Chuan
Many ancient Chinese texts mention the connection between the heart and spine. Taoist writings, in particular, discuss how the heart and spine are related to self-cultivation and spiritual development.

Tai Chi Chuan is a martial art that is based on these Taoist principles. It emphasizes the importance of aligning the heart and spine to create a strong and balanced body.
The heart is the ruler of the body and the mind. It is the center of our emotions and thoughts. The spine is the major bone structure of the body and it supports the torso. It is also the path of the central nervous system, which connects the brain to the rest of the body.

When the heart and spine are aligned, we are able to move with more power and grace. We are also more likely to be healthy and resilient.

How to Align the Heart and Spine

To align the heart and spine, we need to first relax and let go of any tension in the body. We can do this through meditation, deep breathing, or simply by paying attention to our posture.

Once we are relaxed, we can begin to focus on aligning the heart and spine. We can do this by imagining a straight line running from the top of the head to the tailbone. We can also visualize the heart and spine as being connected by a string of pearls.

As we practice Tai Chi Chuan, we can focus on keeping the heart and spine aligned. This will help us to move with more power and grace, and it will also promote our health and well-being.

Benefits of Aligning the Heart and Spine

Aligning the heart and spine has many benefits, including:
  • Improved posture
  • Reduced pain and stiffness
  • Increased energy and vitality
  • Improved mental clarity and focus
  • Deeper spiritual connection
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Re: The Heart and Spine are Important

Postby Trick on Sat Feb 24, 2024 9:50 pm

origami_itto wrote:The Heart and Spine in Tai Chi Chuan
Many ancient Chinese texts mention the connection between the heart and spine. Taoist writings, in particular, discuss how the heart and spine are related to self-cultivation and spiritual development.

Tai Chi Chuan is a martial art that is based on these Taoist principles. It emphasizes the importance of aligning the heart and spine to create a strong and balanced body.
The heart is the ruler of the body and the mind. It is the center of our emotions and thoughts. The spine is the major bone structure of the body and it supports the torso. It is also the path of the central nervous system, which connects the brain to the rest of the body.

When the heart and spine are aligned, we are able to move with more power and grace. We are also more likely to be healthy and resilient.

How to Align the Heart and Spine

To align the heart and spine, we need to first relax and let go of any tension in the body. We can do this through meditation, deep breathing, or simply by paying attention to our posture.

Once we are relaxed, we can begin to focus on aligning the heart and spine. We can do this by imagining a straight line running from the top of the head to the tailbone. We can also visualize the heart and spine as being connected by a string of pearls.

As we practice Tai Chi Chuan, we can focus on keeping the heart and spine aligned. This will help us to move with more power and grace, and it will also promote our health and well-being.

Benefits of Aligning the Heart and Spine

Aligning the heart and spine has many benefits, including:
  • Improved posture
  • Reduced pain and stiffness
  • Increased energy and vitality
  • Improved mental clarity and focus
  • Deeper spiritual connection

heart in this case refer to specific mental state, much as western cultures also do - have heart, heartless, heartbroken, wholeheartly ...and so on.
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Re: The Heart and Spine are Important

Postby ParadoxTeapot on Sun Feb 25, 2024 10:20 am

What is the motivation behind posting this?

It would come as a huge shock to me if anyone who looked into Tai Chi hadn't read/heard about this stuff.
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Re: The Heart and Spine are Important

Postby D_Glenn on Sun Feb 25, 2024 10:44 am

Can you post a link to one, or some of these Taoist writings? Or the author so that I might be able to dig up the actual Chinese characters.

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Re: The Heart and Spine are Important

Postby origami_itto on Sun Feb 25, 2024 11:26 am

ParadoxTeapot wrote:What is the motivation behind posting this?

Curiosity.
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Re: The Heart and Spine are Important

Postby origami_itto on Sun Feb 25, 2024 11:29 am

D_Glenn wrote:Can you post a link to one, or some of these Taoist writings? Or the author so that I might be able to dig up the actual Chinese characters.

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I'm just going to call the experiment a failure. Here is the original text I had AI paraphrase.

Cheng Man Ching wrote:Treatise Six
Equal Importance of
the Heart and Spine


The Classic of Internal Medicine mentions
the jen and tu meridians together. Other books
designate the heart and spine together. The
Taoist literature clearly discusses the relationship between
the heart and spine in the process of self-cultivation. T'ai
Chi Ch'uan is an internal school of the martial arts. At
the end of the Sung Dynasty, the Taoist Chang San-feng
expounded the theories of action and non-action of the
Yellow Emperor and Lao-tzu and combined them with
the concepts Ii, ch'i, and hsiang from the Chou Book
of Changes to create T'ai Chi Ch'uan. Basically these
theories did not go beyond the jen and tu meridians. The
jen and tu are the first of the extra meridians. The jen
is governed by the heart and the tu is governed by the
spine. Furthermore, the spine is connected with the kidney.
If we differentiated them into substance and function,
the spine is the substance and the heart is the function.
Combined, the heart and kidneys behave as a unity.
Because of this, T'ai Chi Ch'uan is better than any other
martial art or other forms of exercise.
The heart is the ruler of the body. The essence of
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the Chinese Philosophers tells us, "Seek the release of the
heart-mind." Ch'an Buddhists ask, "Is the host at home?"
Here the host is the heart. This is similar to the Taoist
concept of the heart and kidney as connected together.
Although their paths are different, they all arrive at the
same place. T'ai Chi Ch'uan goes beyond this. It is said:
"The best way is to understand by clear demonstration."
Therefore, I have written this book in an attempt to
show the truth that the substance includes application.
Here the "heart" does not mean merely the organ itself.
It refers to the mind. The heart and the mind are not
two separate entities nor are they just one. The function
of the heart as organ is wiser because of the inherence in
it of the mind.
The spine has twenty-four vertebrae. In humans it
is the major bone structure and is divided into sections.
The internal organs are all affixed to it and at the same
time it supports the torso. However, the structure of the
spine is not as important as its function which is the
path and means of self-cultivation and preserving life.
T'ai Chi Ch'uan's basis lies also in this.
When the beginner starts to learn T'ai Chi Ch'uan,
he should secure his mind and ch'i in the tan t'ien. Do not
forget this, but also do not coerce it. This is the meaning
of "seek the release of the mind" and "is the host at
home." After a long time, the ch'i naturally passes through
the coccyx, spreads along the backbone, and travels up
through the occipital region to the top of the head. Then
it descends to the tan t'ien. This is the unification of the
jen and tu meridians and the coupling of the heart and
kidney. You cannot, however, attain this after practicing
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just a short while. More importantly, you cannot force
it! It must be completely natural. If you do attain it,
your T'ai Chi Ch'uan desire has the potential to reach
the highest level where your spirit will become immortal. Longevity and good health will be your lot.
It is difficult to describe the mind. People of knowledge and self-cultivation have foraged through the work
of the ancient sages, their theories of secret transmission
and of upright and unwavering mind like the passing of
the sun and the moon through the Heaven. Concerning
this I need not explain further. But I would like to expound more upon the word "spine." Generally, ancient
people referred to self-cultivation as cheng ching wei tso
(straightening the clothes and sitting upright). The derivation of the word wei is difficult. Most people do not
dare to interpret it directly as meaning "dangerous." But
I think the two words wei tso contain the actual meaning of danger because the spine, like a string of pearls,
has many sections ascending vertically. If we ignore it
even slightly, it will lean, bend, or collapse-and thus
have no power to support the body. In cases of minor illness this will lead to abscess or consumption of the bone.
More serious illness will cause the bone actually to break.
Is this not dangerous? One who is adept at self-cultivation knows this and does not let flagging energy result in
illness. Therefore, the words of precaution are: cheng
ching wei tso. If you are cheng (upright), there will be
no cause for illness in the spine. Wei is the fear of not
being upright and so courting illness. So I advise T'ai
Chi Ch'uan practitioners, "Make your spine upright."
Upright is a string of pearls that does not lean. But be42
ing tense, holding oneself unnaturally erect, or overcorrecting are all real defects. You just have to know that
these are dangerous. That is enough.
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Re: The Heart and Spine are Important

Postby Bao on Sun Feb 25, 2024 11:54 am

I, apparently the only one so far, actually liked the OP.

However, straightening the spine is not something you should try to do consciously. The spine wants to prolong itself naturally, so aligning yourself with the space-curvature affected be the mass of the earth (i.e. "gravity"), and relaxing into the alignment, will naturally straighten the spine. So you need to learn how to "let go" without collapsing. That is all.
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Re: The Heart and Spine are Important

Postby ParadoxTeapot on Sun Feb 25, 2024 2:20 pm

origami_itto wrote:I'm just going to call the experiment a failure. Here is the original text I had AI paraphrase.


What was the experiment you were trying to conduct here? And why was the experiment a failure?
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Re: The Heart and Spine are Important

Postby D_Glenn on Mon Feb 26, 2024 8:50 am

Okay I thought it was referring to Xinshen (literally heart spirit), which is a term that essentially means “you”. It’s emotional. We need to calm our emotions and desire to be doing something other than self-cultivation down. (In my Bagua school we would go into the 5 shens here), but the body structure and sinking everything down to the Dantian is the first thing to help in calming one’s Xinshen.

The word “aligning” and translating as “heart” is what makes your initial post strange. The spine is a physical thing. While Xinshen is an intangible philosophical concept, which bleeds into the metaphysical and supernatural. That’s my issue with the way your OP was written.

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Re: The Heart and Spine are Important

Postby Dmitri on Mon Feb 26, 2024 6:42 pm

"The Heart and Spine are Important" - yes! And so are the Nose and Liver! Long Live Esoterics!
Seriously though, only on a CIMA forum there could be a title like that. And maybe on a kindergarten lesson.
(Just poking fun...)
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Re: The Heart and Spine are Important

Postby GrahamB on Tue Feb 27, 2024 3:07 am

When are the heart and spine... not important.... to human life?

This is the problem with AI. It just produces gibberish that looks good on the surface, but you look closer and it's based on nothing.
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Re: The Heart and Spine are Important

Postby origami_itto on Tue Feb 27, 2024 6:35 am

GrahamB wrote:When are the heart and spine... not important.... to human life?

This is the problem with AI. It just produces gibberish that looks good on the surface, but you look closer and it's based on nothing.


Well it basically threw out all the references to Chinese Medicine Theory that provides meaningful substance.
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Re: The Heart and Spine are Important

Postby D_Glenn on Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:10 am

Haha
I just realized that this was AI. I seriously thought you had lost your marbles (or pearls) or had like a stroke or something. That’s why I was being so cautious.
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Re: The Heart and Spine are Important

Postby origami_itto on Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:15 am

D_Glenn wrote:Haha
I just realized that this was AI. I seriously thought you had lost your marbles (or pearls) or had like a stroke or something. That’s why I was being so cautious.

That's probably the most validating thing I've ever read on this forum. Thank you.

I am interested in folk's thoughts on the text in general too. :D
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Re: The Heart and Spine are Important

Postby origami_itto on Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:16 am

ParadoxTeapot wrote:
origami_itto wrote:I'm just going to call the experiment a failure. Here is the original text I had AI paraphrase.


What was the experiment you were trying to conduct here? And why was the experiment a failure?

I think I was being a jerk.
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