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Yang family

Postby wayne hansen on Mon Apr 22, 2024 3:45 pm

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Re: Yang family

Postby wayne hansen on Thu Apr 25, 2024 12:11 pm

Quite surprised 83 people have seen this and there are no comments
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Re: Yang family

Postby Bob on Thu Apr 25, 2024 1:03 pm

Sorry, unfortunately I don't do facebook
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Re: Yang family

Postby Bao on Thu Apr 25, 2024 2:30 pm

Bob wrote:Sorry, unfortunately I don't do facebook


You haven't missed anything. I wouldn't have an account if social media wasn't a part of my work. Extremely censored and biased junk.


wayne hansen wrote:Quite surprised 83 people have seen this and there are no comments


Is there anything about it you wanted to discuss?
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Re: Yang family

Postby Bob on Thu Apr 25, 2024 4:02 pm

Yeah, I'm a late teen/early twenties "child" of the Nixon era LOL

Side note: too blue collar to be a hippie
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Re: Yang family

Postby wayne hansen on Thu Apr 25, 2024 4:06 pm

No not really
Just thought so many people being into
Teaching
Lineages
Yang
That it would be more discussed
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Re: Yang family

Postby everything on Thu Apr 25, 2024 4:29 pm

I don't understand the family obsession. The next Messi won't be named Messi or Ronaldo or Mbappe. Will Jordan's grandkids have any basketball talent? Maybe, maybe not.
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Re: Yang family

Postby origami_itto on Thu Apr 25, 2024 4:30 pm

I think people care more about what you can show them than they do who you say your teacher is or was.
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Re: Yang family

Postby nicklinjm on Thu Apr 25, 2024 5:59 pm

Concur with what other posters already said - the Yang Zhenduo / Yang Jun group is pretty irrelevant nowadays, even for serious Yang stylists, as they are not able to show many of the skills for which the Yang family were famous (seizing energy najin and short / cold power).
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Re: Yang family

Postby wayne hansen on Thu Apr 25, 2024 11:29 pm

Yes they seem to have the
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Re: Yang family

Postby Bao on Fri Apr 26, 2024 5:29 am

Have never seen Yang Jun demonstrate something else than form. Has he ever showed any kind of skill? Again, not to my knowledge.
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Re: Yang family

Postby Trick on Fri Apr 26, 2024 6:02 am

Bao wrote:Have never seen Yang Jun demonstrate something else than form. Has he ever showed any kind of skill? Again, not to my knowledge.

Years ago(late 90’s ?) YZD with Yang jun visited Sweden teaching at a seminar, Stockholm I believe ?
I remember this from SVT(TV)that had a short reportage on the event, in there YZD pushed around a young YJ that quite abruptly almost violently ended up sprawling on the ground……He must have learned something from that ?
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Re: Yang family

Postby Steve James on Fri Apr 26, 2024 6:12 am

Oh, there are vids of Yang Jun doing phs on YouTube. His applications are nothing extraordinary. But, so what?

His form, whatever one thinks of it, is very precise and as close as possible to his grandfather's Yang Zhenduo who resembled his dad YCF. People who don't think much of YCF's tcc form won't think much of Yang Jun's. Afa fighting, it was Fu Zhongwen who was the 'gatekeeper' to accept challenges.

If it's about form, here's his; how's yours?
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Re: Yang family

Postby origami_itto on Fri Apr 26, 2024 6:32 am

Steve James wrote:If it's about form, here's his; how's yours?


There's the real point. People love to criticize others while keeping themselves safe from scrutiny. At the end of the day, what have the detractors accomplished?
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Re: Yang family

Postby yeniseri on Fri Apr 26, 2024 9:23 am

What and who are we really concerned about?

For myself, I have learned many 'variations' of Yangshitaijiquan and over time I have added/transformed things
from other style that I have incorporated into my own physical representation of taijiquan. Whether Yang Family,
Yang style, Yang disciples, etc where each has imagined they have the 'total picture', I have found the man/woman
who has learned something and able to show/describe/play taijiquan to be for 'superior' (relatively speaking!) than
just learning a style from a hereditary source, real or imaginery.

Each to his own ability to make what he learns his own, resonates better with me that just copying and claiming they
have real stuff, whatever that may imply ;D
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