zhan zhuang and supplements question

[martialartist]

Josealb, so other kinds of stances cannot be considered "zhan zhuang"? why not? what is the origin?

[johnwang]

define precisely zhan zhuang. is it something done while relaxed or not?

so other kinds of stances cannot be considered "zhan zhuang"?

As far as I know, all 13 Tai Bao zhan zhuang training can not been done in "relaxed" manner.

[Josealb]

Not sure what you mean..I didnt mention specific stances.

Good luck finding the origin.

[martialartist]

very nice john pictures, john... did master chang write a book?

[johnwang]

That was in the International SC Assoc. handbook. Just to show this as a more general definition of Zhan Zhuang. The idea of ZZ was not created by Yi Chuan only. It excised in SC thousand years ago.

[nianfong]

actually he did write a book. David chang gave me a copy of it years ago. aren't too many copies of it left.

[Walk the Torque]

Fong,

That avatar is doing my head in!

[BonesCom]

That is why for beginners the body shakes a lot, because the skeletal frame is stressed over its own weight

Don't agree with this at all. The reason (as I see it) that beginners shake is due to an inability to relax the major leg muscles while remaining standing. Remember you never lock joints in standing, this means the force is not transferred through the bone, rather it is negated by a low (as possible) basal level of muscular contraction (most probably the soleus type muscles although I'm not a physiologist). Even experienced practitioners have shakey legs sometimes and I would suggest this is due to an inability to relax and remain upright too. The shakes come from the muscles not the bones