Shaolin For Health, Tai Chi For Fighting

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Re: Shaolin For Health, Tai Chi For Fighting

Postby shawnsegler on Mon May 04, 2009 5:34 pm

I think a lot of smart people out there use it like that.

My first taiji teacher taught wing chun and taiji like that. He really related that both of them were inspired by the snake and the crane.

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Re: Shaolin For Health, Tai Chi For Fighting

Postby chud on Mon May 04, 2009 6:31 pm

Darth Rock&Roll wrote:from the shaolin (sil lum) I was taught:

nei gong
ba duan jin
yi jin jing
6 healing breaths
zhanzhuang



Are Ba Duan Jin and Zhan Zhuang "Shaolin"? If so, then I guess I do Shaolin.
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Re: Shaolin For Health, Tai Chi For Fighting

Postby Fubo on Mon May 04, 2009 6:47 pm

I was taught the same set of Ba Duan Jin 2 different ways, one set from my bagua teachers, and another from a My Jhong Law Hon teacher... The bagua teachers focused on one relaxation, breathing and extension throughout (amongst other things), the other teacher focused on the same things with moments of focused tension and breath holding at different points throughout.
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Re: Shaolin For Health, Tai Chi For Fighting

Postby Darth Rock&Roll on Tue May 05, 2009 6:02 am

chud wrote:
Darth Rock&Roll wrote:from the shaolin (sil lum) I was taught:

nei gong
ba duan jin
yi jin jing
6 healing breaths
zhanzhuang



Are Ba Duan Jin and Zhan Zhuang "Shaolin"? If so, then I guess I do Shaolin.


standing post exercise and 8 pieces of brocade have taoist foundations but are found in shaolin as are a great many other arts from many regions. Shaolin is old ass and has many a style come into it's gates and be taken care of, adapted, preserved, protected, reformed, redistributed and so on. They still do it today.
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Re: Shaolin For Health, Tai Chi For Fighting

Postby Andy_S on Tue May 05, 2009 8:13 am

Darth:

Great footage of the old Di-tang guy...had never seen this trained traditionally, just the wushu version. The old master with the impressive set of lugs was damned good, even if he did cut out the jump cartwheels into ground splits. Thanks for posting.

I wonder if those who start in Taiji and then do something a bit harder have the opposite exp of Troy?
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Re: Shaolin For Health, Tai Chi For Fighting

Postby Darth Rock&Roll on Tue May 05, 2009 8:16 am

cerebus wrote:This idea was also used to great effect by Jack Dempsey...



It also works extremely well with sword work and pole arms work and the like.
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Re: Shaolin For Health, Tai Chi For Fighting

Postby Wanderingdragon on Tue May 05, 2009 9:18 am

Never gave it much thought, just kinda figured fitness is fitness, just knew that the soft stuff would never build muscle but always knew the muscle had to be loose to be useful. Oh well Yin within the Yang and Yang within the Yin, must be something natural.
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