Destruction Techniques training

[johnwang]

Do you train any "destruction techniques" that you can use in any life threaten situation? One SC training is to go to the woods and find some low tree branches. You hold on that tree branch, spin your body, and use your shoulder to break that tree branch. My teacher used to say that if you can break 1,000 tree branches then you may have the ability to break someone's arm if needed. What make the CMA unique is the special training methods IMO.

Do you train something like this?

[TraingDummy]

My meditation teacher has techniques like these, he makes me use a chainsaw though.

"When you have cut down 1000 trees, we will build a retreat center!"

[Darth Rock&Roll]

John, please leave the trees alone.

[DeusTrismegistus]

I practiced an arm break on some 1" by 1" strips of wood to see if the technique would break the wood. It did. Otherwise I don't really do mush like that. I see it more as testing and not as practice.

[Strange]

trees are good. we love trees

[Darth Rock&Roll]

wood is not the same as bone in any state.

dry wood is not even as strong as green wood.

so really, all you're doing is breaking some tree branches. I don't see the practical benefit of that. Unless you don't have an axe and need some kindling.

[Ian]

wood is not the same as bone in any state.

ha! I thought you were making a joke.. I was waiting for the punchline.

anyway, I assume tree cracking is for working against joints, which are very weak when you get the correct angle.

[RobP2]

Darth has timberrrrrred! the correct, you can get all the work you need with people - it's as much about positioning and angles in any event

[Overlord]

trees are good. we love trees

Tree or hump hump next to tree?

Over

[RobP2]

Tree? What tree?

[Wanderingdragon]

You think she does something to us, was anyone there when that branch turned upward?

[SPJ]

actually, the limbs are described as branches or zhi in all Qin Na texts.

we practice bending, twisting. cai, push and pull, etc with branches

breaking or dislocating are usually aimed at the joints or any soft spots --

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[RobP2]

Why not practice them with limbs though? I honestly don't see the point, unless you can't get a training partner, why so much of CMA seems to be in air or against objects (dummy, tree, etc)

[RobP2]

Why not practice them with limbs though? I honestly don't see the point, unless you can't get a training partner, why so much of CMA seems to be in air or against objects (dummy, tree, etc)

[middleway]

i am all for doing techs or ideas on people rather than objects ... big time .... but can also see that with some things you just cant do that. Some elbow extensions you have to be mega careful with ... I had a clot in my elbow before from a slightly rough extension.

On a tree branch you can use exactly the same positional force at full strength. In fact isnt there some systema work with sticks somewhere?? surely its merely an extension of that force or movement training you guys do. You just take the force to the point where you try to break stuff.

I guess its like the tap tap karate guy who is mega accurate but always pulls his punches .. vrs the Thai boxer or kyokushin that smashes the ass out of a heavy bag. One with have useful power ... the other wont.

Sometimes 'testing' or using your force against something that wont break and never train again is useful IMO. But like i say, i am a big fan of dishing out and taking beatings in class

Cheers
Chris