what is advanced?

[SPJ]

OT a bit



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jJouVhl ... re=related

nada sou sou is a Japanese/okinawa song. it is the title song for a movie.

it is difficult to hold tears back even for me.

[I-mon]

this thread is ghey.

[SPJ]

music knows no borders. Martial arts practice also knows no borders. styles/flavors emerge as MA passing along among people.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNwztD-8 ... re=related

Nada sou sou in Hawaiian style/flavor.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7ApYflY ... re=related



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1hCyUcu ... re=related

Hawaiian dance.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPCHokA_ ... annel_page

Nada sou sou in western band.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBRd4x5_ ... annel_page

Nada sou sou in Chinese music instruments. (12 girl bands)

the same music in Chinese style/flavor.

which is better or more advanced? the same just different in interpretation/flavor.

[Graculus]

Of course there is "advanced application of basic techniques" and "advanced techniques". The former is probably more useful and would, in this context, include entering, timing, better body alignment etc. Much of the more informed discussion on this board seems to deal with this.

Advanced techniques - practitioners of traditional art and craft forms of all stripes (non-martial) probably recognise that these exist - and include knowledge as well as application. In classical oil painting, (I don't know much about singing) mixtures of paint, thinners, drying agents were part and parcel of advanced technique, not to mention their application to the canvas. Some of these would be recognisable to the viewer, some not. Some might only be apparent in the fullness of time, long after the painter has died... in the physical durability of his art, for example. An amateur might miss the point or be unable to distinguish the 'advanced' from the 'non-advanced'... after all, it's just a painting.

In CMA, I'm sure some of the advanced techniques make very little difference in the majority of practical situations, but at the same time, this doesn't mean they don't exist. Whether the are worth pursuing is another matter.

Graculus

p.s. Sorry for the gheyness

[wiesiek]

... after all, it's just a painting.
yap
but, before you try put some colours on canvas
you have years of "diggi`n charcoal" on papers
so
painting is the fruit of long work
even if you painted it in one day

[SPJ]

painting, cooking, wine--- there are different levels/grades--

so are MA practice

such as Tai Ji Pushhand

1. single hand with fixed step

vertical circle, horizontal circle, random circle.

2. both hands with fixed step

3. single hand with moving step (forward, backward, etc)

4. both hands with moving step.

5. both hands with random circles and random steps.

practice with medium, large circles

practice with low, high horse stance

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so the principles are the same

but each has a level of difficulties added, more parameters

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how do we advance. one level at a time, one step at a time.