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Just wondering who Liang learned Tai Chi from?

cmc/zmq

That's what I thought, but now I'm looking at a book of Liang's and he apparently did the Yang Long Form...

hmm maybe liang was a student before the short form stuff.

cerebus wrote:Just wondering who Liang learned Tai Chi from?

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Stuart Olson has a book on Amazon - Steal My Art - that gives a list of Liang's teachers.

Anyone have their copy handy so I don't have to order it and wait a couple of weeks for it to arrive?

looks like you can see a preview here: http://books.google.com/books?id=dEQNQr ... +art+liang

seems to be: Wang Hon Fan of PM. YCF for only 2 weeks. Students of Cheng, then Cheng's #1 disciple. Then: Li Shou Chen. Hsiung Yang Ho. Wang Yen Nian. Chen Pan Ling. Huang Tzu Chen. Wei So Tang (PM). "TAoist Yang". Li Jin Fei. Han Jin Tang (qinna). Ch'i Ching Shih (sword). General Yang Shen (meditation). "Taoist Fu" (meditation and qigong). Some stints with bagua and xingyi teachers. There is more detail in the book.

Thanks! I guess he trained in quite a variety of stuff...

cerebus wrote:Thanks! I guess he trained in quite a variety of stuff...

Yep, and in spite of having learned from a number of noted teachers, Liang rarely had a good word to say about any of them.

Go figure!

Liang taught many Taiji forms that were not in CMC's repretoire, including the two-person fighting form, the long form, da lu, double jian, double dao, spear da lu, qigong, and cane.

According to the book "Steal My Art" it says that after his beef with CMC, he decided not to teach CMC's from.

the book also says a few other things about CMC that aren't flattering, yet Liang says that CMC was his best teacher. that's saying a lot i think.

there is also some suspicious stories in that book. one that comes to mind is the story about Zhang Qinglin getting mad at CMC during a demo to the Taipei police chief. did Zhang Qinglin even make it off the mainland?

also, Tao Ping Siang took a letter of recommendation from Zhang to Taiwan with instructions to go find CMC. so i think Liang's story is made up. i've heard Liang was a real story teller.

ShortFormMike wrote: i've heard Liang was a real story teller.

Some folks would say that Liang was inclined to either embellish his stories or simply shovel out a load of BS, so it was often difficult to know where he drew the line between fact and fiction if you weren't present to personally confirm the particular story in question.

And maybe Liang's student also tells more or less then there was, lol!

as time pass
thickness of the story became substanciall...

from second end i read that he was stubborn student and in fact didn`t train at all/or very little/
he used wine, drugs and woman as an "basic form" /rock`nroll /
and almost die from "overjoy"
then in age 40+
he change direction and started serious work with the art

wiesiek wrote:
from second end i read that he was stubborn student and in fact didn`t train at all/or very little/
he used wine, drugs and woman as an "basic form" /rock`nroll /
and almost die from "overjoy"
then in age 40+
he change direction and started serious work with the art

haha good way to go unless your nickname is "W".