Meat Cleaver attack!

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Re: Meat Cleaver attack!

Postby Andy_S on Mon Jun 29, 2009 2:50 am

A meat cleaver will do horrible damage if it connects, but it is NOT an ideal weapon - it has to be swung back before it can chop down or forward. (Or it has to be swung forward before you swing it backward.) Assuming he has not trained with a broadsword and is attacking you with a continuous figure-8 pattern, the backswing is your opening. In my pre-Taiji days, I used to train with soft sticks: Once you know how, it is relatively easy to get inside the arc of the weapon. So the solution is very, very simple: It is all down to timing and getting inside the arc of the weapon. Happy now?

Oh - then there was another question: Courage. Aye - now that is the REAL question.

A knife with a point is more dangerous as it can stab (without being withdrawn) as well as slash, but it does not look as intimidating.
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Re: Meat Cleaver attack!

Postby Overlord on Mon Jun 29, 2009 7:09 am

The worst stab is the one with twist in the end. It tears the muscle fiber and debilitate the person for life.
So it is very intimidating. Very.

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Re: Meat Cleaver attack!

Postby gosao on Mon Jun 29, 2009 11:10 am

Yeah but a knife won't cleanly decapitate you in one stroke..
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Re: Meat Cleaver attack!

Postby gosao on Mon Jun 29, 2009 11:37 am

Wing Chun Butterfly knives must be from someone's recognition of the awesomeness that is the meat cleaver. heheh

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Re: Meat Cleaver attack!

Postby Andy_S on Tue Jun 30, 2009 3:21 am

Overlord:

As someone who has some familiarity with cold weapons (as per my post above) I agree that a small poignard is more intimidating than a cleaver - as, tactically, it is more difficult to deal with.

But I think for most people, a cleaver LOOKS more intimidating.
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Re: Meat Cleaver attack!

Postby vadaga on Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:35 am

I think that folding metal batons are fairly available in China, at least they were in Shanghai... I always told myself to go buy one but honestly, the city wasn't violent enough to warrant it.
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Re: Meat Cleaver attack!

Postby Wanderingdragon on Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:05 pm

Okay! first never use Steven Seagal as an example , and second if you point a gun at someone... Shoot him
Now as for meat cleaver attack Scenario if yuou were in a caband saw the guy walking to his point of attack , his intended victim has plenty of time to get away, if it is a surprise to his victim, he has only his skill, instinct, and reflex to protect him , if you find yourself in that situation, always remember you are the one who must come out alive.
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