Why people said that Sanda is not CMA?

[Chris McKinley]

I dunno....I'd have to watch the video. I just hope there are plenty of high-quality screen capture shots and some good clips for the previews. Mr. Demille, I'm ready for my closeup.

[johnwang]

what is PM your talking about? Pak Mei?

Sorry! I mean prey mantis.

LF and PM may have uppercuts, round kicks, etc, but to me it is pretty clear the way they are trained has much more to do with kickboxing influence than CMA influence.

We can change the

- outside crescent kick into TKD spin back kick.
- round house kick into MT round house kick.
- knee lift throw into MT knee strike,
- double jumping kicks into MT flying knee.

IMO, there is nothing wrong for the change as long as we make it better instead of make it worse. Of course the kickboxing influence is there because the problem that we intend to solve mainly come from kickboxers.

I once pulled off a few armbars in competition and I'd never trained them before. Only saw them on youtube.

I once pulled off a TKD "hook kick" in sparring. I love the concept, "Mine is mine, yours is also mine (if you let me see it)".

If you can pull it off, it's yours and doesn't matter where it came from. If you can't, even it's in your system, it's still not yours.

[BruceP]

I guess the crux of the matter would be whether or not you incorporate at least some traditional training methods as part of your program, like tui shou or ILC spinning hands as an example

Yeah. I heard about this CMA school where all they trained was:

corn-grinding
mirror-polishing
prayer-wheel
advance-retreat
brush-knee
five animal frolics and other qigong
and some goofy footwork

No pad work, boxing or kickboxing was allowed but they still fought in MMA against real MMAers.

Why people said that their training is not CMA?

[cloudz]

Hey shooter,

could you elaborate a bit on these:


corn-grinding
mirror-polishing
prayer-wheel


would be much appreciated, cheers