Wun Yuen Yiquan?

[Haoran]

Anyone have any experience with this? Comments?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTIqtLa35kc

[Ron Panunto]

Looks like more bullshit.

[Haoran]

well, it looks like Qi work but it is Yiquan and I was under the impression that Yiquan peeps didn't get into this which is why I was suprised.

[ors]

I think the "wun yuen" here, is simply a wrong spelling (or cantoneese spelling?) for "hun yuan". Yiquan, as I know use this phrase for multi dimensional force (Hun Yuan Li).

Cheers!

Örs

[Haoran]

Thanks for that, yes I was guessing it was Cantonese too.

[Daniel-san]

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[jjy5016]

The big guy is Cheuk Fung's student. Not doing anything unusual for yiquan practice. It is a cooperative exercise with both participants getting something out of it when done right.

Cheuk Fung has quite a bit of power from his Hop Gar and other training. He was able to refine his movement to the point where it is barely visible and he's able to express it when someone gives him "the frame". He learned yiquan from You Peng Xi and Fong Ha refining it more by practicing with other yiquan guys. He used to say that he could kill someone with one punch. He would also get $500 to demonstrate empty force. Don't think he does it any more. He can also fight for real.

Demonstrations like these are nothing more than just ways of showing how power can be expressed and issued. Only bullshit if one tries to make more out of it than what it is.

[gosao]

^That's nice and all but if he's got real combat skills why not show clips of people grabbing him for real with real resistance? It would be easy enough for them to say okay first here's how we practice, now here's how to apply this type of force in real life. Then people will understand, but the way this stuff is too often displayed is very misleading.

[jjy5016]

^That's nice and all but if he's got real combat skills why not show clips of people grabbing him for real with real resistance? It would be easy enough for them to say okay first here's how we practice, now here's how to apply this type of force in real life. Then people will understand, but the way this stuff is too often displayed is very misleading.

I guess if one really wanted to know more about the how's and whys he could contact Cheuk Fung or one of his students directly.

By the way, with whom do / did you study Kuang Ping taijiquan with?


John

[gosao]

^I've done some Guang Ping with Henry Look back in the day. He enjoyed bouncing folks around too.

[Ron Panunto]

Looks like more bullshit.

More bullshit, or the same type of power possessed by Takeda Sokaku?

Never heard of him.

[Daniel-san]

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[BillyK]

^That's nice and all but if he's got real combat skills why not show clips of people grabbing him for real with real resistance? It would be easy enough for them to say okay first here's how we practice, now here's how to apply this type of force in real life. Then people will understand, but the way this stuff is too often displayed is very misleading.

if you go for locks, you don't "grab for real". you snap joints, you don't hold sumbission holds for minutes while traying to make the other guy cry "uncle". i imagine it would be a little hard to implement this stuff into demonstrations.

[wiesiek]

well
if it`s a demo of certain aspects of the...
anyway
dangerously close to "empty force" particulary when you have arm bar set fully ...

Ron
you mised electric eel tech. /1,5 on vid./