the rum soaked fist: internal martial arts forum

I want to see a video of proper form on the rowing machine.

zenman wrote:I want to see a video of proper form on the rowing machine.

http://www.crossfit.com/cf-info/excercise.html#Row

enjoy!

how can anyone make blanket statements like "fighting's aerobic / anaerobic"? some are and some aren't.

The video of common flaws on crossfit is excellent.

can I just say this thread is making me feel like a fat lazy bastard....off to lose some lard-bye!

Zhong_Kui wrote:

I think someone needs to define what the conditioning would be for, for this thread to reach its highest potential.

There is virtue in vagueness. Please self define it, and why. If I wanted to get into semantic, nitpicky arguments about what something means, I'd just call one someone I went to law school with.

Conditioning can be:
knocking or rolling the bones on things to make them tougher and the tissues more resilient
training the FT fibers to fire stronger
training the ST fibers to fire stronger
training to explode and drop someone within 10 seconds or less
training to last 25+ minutes or more in a sport fight
training to function in the anaerobic end of things
training to function in the aerobic end of things
training to grapple
training to strike
etc.

There are tons of methods, they work for their given goal, but they don't all really work for all goals. Without knowing the goal, a person reading may pick up what to do, but not necessarily why and then may have a hard time deciding if the information is valuable for them. Specificity rules, so the closer you get towards practicing the activity you are training to excel at, the more crossover you will have. Being familiar and realistic about what the activity may entail though is a whole other can of worms

Royal Dragon wrote:How is fighting Anaerobic? You breath deeply and directly with every move. you are moving to the point of exertion, but rarely too the point where you cannot talk during your movement. Even during life and death struggles, you can yell, swear and curse your opponent. Most do infact.

Clearly you've never been in a real fight. Or even seen one.

If two guys are "fighting" and find time/breath to yell, swear, or curse at each other -- they're not fighting. They're posturing, and secretly hoping that their friends will "hold them back" from "killing the other guy."

zenman wrote:I want to see a video of proper form on the rowing machine.

http://www.concept2.com/us/training/muscles_used.asp

BTW, as you can see, brand new Concept2s run about $850. Sounds expensive until you compare it to "health club" fees here in NYC ...

Ian wrote:how can anyone make blanket statements like "fighting's aerobic / anaerobic"? some are and some aren't.

if you're not in the anaerobic range, you're not fighting, you're playing.

Specificity rules

In the answer this may be true. In the question, it is better to leave it open ended. Besides, look at some of the answers. The question, I thought, was fairly specifically looking for a single exercise that is your personal preference. Many of the answers ignored that simple condition though. Am I upset? No, because it is all part of the great messy blob of info we call the internet. Just like your teacher is *generally* not responsible for a student who doesn't listen and continues to suck, so to is the internet not responsible for those to do not take the time seek the gold within the dross.

if you're not in the anaerobic range, you're not fighting, you're playing.

Or you are fighting someone who truly sucks.

Zhong_Kui wrote:
Or you are fighting someone who truly sucks.

The best kind of fighting, in my book.

ashe and wkfung108, you took the words right of my mouth:

Fighting is anaerobic, - if you think it isn't you've never been in a fight, your'e just playing around, or your oponent is a pushover. . .

But.... But.... I'M innnnnnternal............

I don't sweat....

That's way to far below me.

Mike Strong... You still want me to paint that house on the east side or what???!!!

Thanks guys for the rowing videos. Looks great!

ashe wrote:

Ian wrote:how can anyone make blanket statements like "fighting's aerobic / anaerobic"? some are and some aren't.

if you're not in the anaerobic range, you're not fighting, you're playing.

Ashe, I agree with you like 80% of the time, but that is just utter bullshit.

Unless your definition of "fighting" is something along the lines of sparring for 10 rounds in a ring, then you are so off the mark it's incredible, coming from you.

What about people who can end a fight quickly? Or guys who are just good at staying relaxed and maintaining their breathing so that they don't get tired?

So according to you these aren't fights?