Chris McKinley wrote:Just another reason to be forever grateful for the gift of quality instruction and the training opportunity I had.
From whom did you learn taiji, again? TIA
Chris McKinley wrote:Just another reason to be forever grateful for the gift of quality instruction and the training opportunity I had.
daniel pfister wrote:RE: "I mentioned my time-worn analogy of Drunk Uncle Fred as an example of a situation in which someone gets belligerent and needs to be possibly physically restrained or escorted out but without harming them or using any real damaging force." Yes, and I am saying that push hands skills, more than striking or throwing or even joint locking skills would be pretty useful in this specific situation. What's wrong with that?
Dmitri wrote: PH in its "standard" format, at least IME, has nothing at all to do with restraining anyone.
Chris McKinley wrote: If you're training to protect yourself in what is, by its very nature, an extreme situation, you must at least train for the intensity level that is native to that context.
A real life-threatening assault is not served by training which does not prepare the individual for that level of intensity. If your training prepares you only for a lesser situation, it's impossible to play catch-up in the moment you find yourself facing a much worse scenario.
....nobody on earth who has faced real combat is going to buy an argument that push hands, by itself, is sufficient....
Chris McKinley wrote:
I've said nothing critical of the ability of push hands to be "applied to other types of combat training". In fact, that's precisely what I believe it is useful for. From the beginning, what I've been arguing, and what you've been arguing against, is the fact that push hands by itself is an insufficient training method for real combat, and that those "other types of combat training" are absolutely necessary.
Doc Stier wrote:Good tui-shou skills can certainly contribute to the quality of a fighter's combative skills, but can never exclusively prepare a fighter for the intensity of potential life and death combat as a stand alone training method.
Chris McKinley wrote:Once again, if your training prepares you for the most intense type of eventuality, then it's much easier to mitigate the level of your response, as appropriate, to situations that require a lesser response. If your training prepares you only for a lesser situation, it's impossible to play catch-up in the moment you find yourself facing a much worse scenario.
daniel pfister wrote:I have met Marines and SF guys whose very high-intensity training seemed to make it even more difficult for them to mitigate their responses. Every burst of anger or potentially violent situation would turn into a life or death situation.
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