D_Glenn wrote:Back in 2009 the question was asked: "Best internal guys alive today?"
And here's the answers, in the order they were mentioned:
yap cheng hai
su dong chen
luo de xiu
william cc chen
ma jiang bao
yun yin sen (lhbf)
xu ai zhai
liu rui (zhaobao taiji)
li zhanhua (tongbeiquan)
chin lik keong and jimmy heow
yang guo tai
yuan shao liang
li yen hoa student of chiu chuk kai
william de thours
wai lun choi
yao pei jing
albert (zheng) liu
lu sheng li
h won gim
Then, after necrothreading to 2016, Niall read the thread and wrote that all of the above are only doing "Boxercise or performance art".
Now I'm sure that there are a few guys up on that list who are exactly that, I wouldn't know, I've only met four of them and they are all proficient fighters and internal martial artists and teach arts that are nowhere near what would be for performance.
Niall, would you mind naming names, who exactly on that list are you talking about, it would help?
Sweeping generalizations never work.
No... misdirection again.
I have never said all in that list.. hardly would, not only are people with verifiable fight records and coaching achievements like Mike Patterson and Tom Cartmell there, but my own Sifu too - Dan Docherty . Pull the other one. There are plenty there with only in-house tuishou and application demonstration on students at best and just forms at worst.
If I name them I get banned from forum obviously enough, so I'll let you guys use your google-fu, although I'm fairly sure most already see a few chancers on the list.
I guess my whole point is how shocking it is to see the lack of questioning and so called martial artists not demanding objective proof. Like they say the plural of anecdote is not evidence. yet in ima it seems it is exactly that!
Take windy's last link... a write up of some lad who "stole" his art watching an awl lad in a park who does no excerices besides playing tuishou with all comers and even those martial artists twice his size end up on the ground astonished at his legendary skill that is the stuff of legend
The write up of course is on his website... and not a video to back it all up exists...
and yet they believe... is it because they need to? You must believe kung fu panda... you must believe!