the rum soaked fist: internal martial arts forum

Except when the side door has all kinds of negative consequences and actually harms you rather than bringing you closer to a unified understanding of reality.

M-speaks from personal experience.

Everyone has a different path young padawan.

S- has respect for having to walk in anyones shoes

Drugs and alcohol are like road side bombs for your jinglou (meridans/channels).

whats the use of doing qigong and then destroying the roads that carry the qi?

some drugs can show us what is possible, but ultimately we have to learn to get there without the crutch.

I'm not advocating that everyone go out and light up because it's the way to true enlightenment, but if you start out by trying to limit your experience...you'll succeed.

Everyone has those personal choices to make, but coming in here and auto-knocking someone elses experience for based on your own personal choices is pretty presumptuous.

I like STMA's sigline quote from Choki Motobu about the art of someone who engages in no vices having no flavor.

It's neither here nor there, but your experience isn't everyones.

S- just sayin

who down with bong-gong?

Well, the WuTang Clan, anyway.



S

I'm no angel and in college 10 years ago I tried just about everything.

ken Cohen seems to be one of the authority guys for Qigong in USA so to each his own. Alot of beginners mentioned his stuff to me and from what i've seen its a good introduction. I'm not to excited to learn any new qigongs since i already learned a dozen in almost 18 years of training.

people should really get to know Taoist qigong in this order before moving onto more advanced stuff:

1. 6 healing sounds
2. microcosmic orbit
3. ba dua jing


Can someone tell me the importance of Taiji-ruler. why does one need a device to do qigong? you cn circulate qi between the palms by having the laogong points face each other, you should be able to feel it without a wooden device.

qiphlow wrote:ken cohen has some good stuff on qigong, and also good stuff on native american medicine.
i have this book by him. i don't regret the purchase at all

I have this one too,
-very good

neijia_boxer wrote:I'm no angel and in college 10 years ago I tried just about everything.


people should really get to know Taoist qigong in this order before moving onto more advanced stuff:

1. 6 healing sounds
2. microcosmic orbit
3. ba dua jing


Can someone tell me the importance of Taiji-ruler. why does one need a device to do qigong? you cn circulate qi between the palms by having the laogong points face each other, you should be able to feel it without a wooden device.

I would reverse it like:
1.ba dua jing
2.microcosmic orbit
3.6 healing sounds /btw this is allredy "advanced" stuff/

TJ ruler -
why do you need a device /at all/to do MA?

About you college days-
you didn't try as hard as needed
This is VERY advanced staff
and
as allways not for everyone /for brain surgery u need very good tools and experience/

+You need to know what do you looking for

edit.P.S.:
I put advanced in "inverted commas " `cause ANY qigong exercise can be as simple or as advanced as present level of your understending

I have had the pleasure of meeting Ken Cohen years ago and I simply was impressed by his openness and willingness to share his knowledge; hence, a few years ago one of my students went on to learn from him varies qigong sets.

Indeed, he is pioneer of non-Asian doing qigong in the west.

Can someone tell me the importance of Taiji-ruler. why does one need a device to do qigong? you cn circulate qi between the palms by having the laogong points face each other, you should be able to feel it without a wooden device.

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It is a tool for beginners that helps them link up the full body motion. The use is readily apparent if you have someone teach you the methods.

Once you have everything linked up so you can do it right without the Ruler, it is disguarded.