Li Ruidong article Interesting

[ngokfei]

http://www.wushuwg.com/dp-bbsthread-29.html

[jonathan.bluestein]

Nice.. If I could read any of it! XDD

BTW

Looking for good material on Li Ruidong in English. The more the better. Can anyone help with this?

[ngokfei]

Stumble like the majority of us who don't read Chinese

plenty of free on line translator sites
some better then others

what I found interesting seems to deal with ylc teaching prince Duane

[cloudz]

I'm interested about the subject too.. I can't quite make out using a translation page if that article is criticising the idea. It seems like it's making a case that there was no adult Prince Duan ?

It's not quite clear. If there's any one who can shed more light on the whole Yangs teaching at the Imperial Palace history, would be much appreciated. Does anyone know of any Academic historical reasearch done in this subject ?

It would seem indesputable that bannermen, Gurdsmen (military personel) where taught eg. Wang Lanting, Quan You, Lui Ruidong by the Yangs - Ban Hou and Lu Chan

I guess I'm interested in some official record that they were indeed retained in the employ of an Imperial House, inside the Imperiel Court - the often mentioned House of Prince Duan specifically..

[SnowLeopard]

Li Ruidong is the least known among all the major Tai Chi exponents of the last century. I would love to know more about him too. According to the little I know about him, he was a martial genius and had created his own style after studying various MAs including Taichi.

[Yuen-Ming]

I wrote a piece that touches the subject that was published on Jama

http://www.goviamedia.com/index.php?pag ... Itemid=103

and will publish more material from that source on JOCMS soon

http://www.martialstudies.com.hk/

YM

[ngokfei]

yep 2 great sources of info. And at reasonable costs.

[Andy_S]

Tom:

I would have thought that the Imperial Court DID keep pretty good records of who was employed in the Royal Household Regiments - officers, soldiers and possibly their instructors.

In Sterling Seagrove's oustanding "Dragon Lady" (an angry, lively and very compelling revisionist history of the Dowager Empress - highly recommended to RSFers as it casts considerable light on late 19th century/early 20th century China) that he includes the story of Yin Fu being chosen to escort the Old Dragon out of Beijing during the Boxer Rebellion.

I can't recall what his citation for it was, but Seagrove is a fairly serious Asianist and historian and AFAIK, has no MA connections. Point being, I don't think he would have heard it from people in MA circles, which is where we get most of what passes for CMA history - so he must have read it.

Somewhere.