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Re: Ba Gua basic palms

PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2023 10:15 pm
by wayne hansen
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Fair lady

Re: Ba Gua basic palms

PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2023 12:59 am
by D_Glenn
G. Matthew Webb wrote:What is the "Throw open the Shutters to look at the Moon" posture?


The posture at 1:23



https://youtu.be/QRqGHk1HysI?si=ZT9971JmvFg-0LZ6

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Re: Ba Gua basic palms

PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2023 2:52 pm
by gerard
everything wrote:gerard, what is Rooster Heads Palm? can you describe it?


Palm is held similarly to the "single whip" in Chen TJQ but in this case is facing up in both arms

http://phillosoph.blogspot.com/2015/01/ ... m.html?m=1

As in shown in the third diagram but some Chen stylists hold the fist differently.


Both arms are held straight but leading arm is held higher up than the trailing arm.

Re: Ba Gua basic palms

PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2023 4:20 pm
by everything
gerard wrote:
everything wrote:gerard, what is Rooster Heads Palm? can you describe it?


Palm is held similarly to the "single whip" in Chen TJQ but in this case is facing up in both arms

http://phillosoph.blogspot.com/2015/01/ ... m.html?m=1

As in shown in the third diagram but some Chen stylists hold the fist differently.


Both arms are held straight but leading arm is held higher up than the trailing arm.


fascinating, thanks

Re: Ba Gua basic palms

PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2023 2:41 pm
by gerard
Not a problem. My guess is that Wang Tong introduced that palm replacing the "Millstone Pushing" one (my guess) which was taught by Li Zi Ming (any Ba Gua historians, please correct me if I'm wrong).

The MPP is taught as the opening as Palm of the post-Heaven sequence of the Lao Ba/Ba Da Zhang, old Eight Palms set in the Wang Tong line.

Re: Ba Gua basic palms

PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2023 9:53 am
by Bob
Old days

Basic Palms from Gong Bao Tian/ Liu Yunqiao line:

https://www.wutangcenter.com/wt/index.html

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Re: Ba Gua basic palms

PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2023 10:56 pm
by gerard
From that link:

However, Grandmater Liu, on more than one occasion, told Sifu Yang that,"... you will thank me in your old age for teaching you Ba Gua Zhang." Food for thought?

^5.