CMA/IMA in Kumamoto

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Re: CMA/IMA in Kumamoto

Postby Trick on Mon Nov 06, 2017 10:40 pm

Finny wrote:Jigen ryu!!

Yeah, I would definitely go for Jigen ryu, it seem very "basic" to the point of primal getting more to the root of it kind of
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Re: CMA/IMA in Kumamoto

Postby Finny on Tue Nov 07, 2017 12:27 am

Haha yeah.. not sure I would myself, to be honest. I think JR is one of those 'that's for me/that's not for me' kinda things. Amazing stuff, and I'm reliably informed that they take that primal, singular direction to a surprising level of development and complexity.. which is downright scary (as intended I'd imagine). The Shimazu mon (crest) is reflective of that kinda scary-ness... it's a circle with a cross inside, apparently the horizontal line represents the enemy's sword which has been beaten down into the forehead by the JR practitioner's (vertical line) hehe - badass. Just not sure if I could handle that degree of austerity in my training.. the school I study (from which JR derived, strangely) follows a very different approach.. almost polar opposite.
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Re: CMA/IMA in Kumamoto

Postby Ian C. Kuzushi on Tue Nov 07, 2017 12:36 am

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But definitely let me know if you are in town! A bite after work or the like would be fun.


Deal. I hope to make it down in July after I finish this program and have some time to do some traveling for research.
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Re: CMA/IMA in Kumamoto

Postby Ian C. Kuzushi on Tue Nov 07, 2017 12:44 am

Tom wrote:
Ian C. Kuzushi wrote: We could talk history or culture while we push hands or wrestle. :)


Please note that for Ian, "while we push hands or wrestle" is more likely a euphemism for "while we eat and drink." At least when he's in Japan. ;D


Hey! I resemble that comment!

It's true that I have always been a work hard-play hard kind of guy. Although, I play much less than I used to, being engaged and in one of the most brutal grad programs known to man. ;D The current program here in Yokohama is 12 plus hours a day, not including commute time or personal projects, so I have only been stepping on the tatami about once a month. I still surprise the youngins pretty often, and also the police (to clarify for Tom, I work out occasionally at a keisatsu dojo). They have finally started letting up when I tap, which means the hazing is coming to an end even though I'm not a regular. That's a good sign.

I hear that the final term here is a bit slower, so I plan to start full time at the Kanagawa Budokan, where they specialize in katame no kata. If I can manage that, I'll get my next dan rank. :)
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Re: CMA/IMA in Kumamoto

Postby Trick on Tue Nov 07, 2017 7:20 am

Finny wrote:The Shimazu mon (crest) is reflective of that kinda scary-ness... it's a circle with a cross inside, apparently the horizontal line represents the enemy's sword which has been beaten down into the forehead by the JR practitioner's (vertical line)
actually I thought that kamon kind of referred to Christianity somehow, that area of Japan was maybe still is a supposed stronghold of Christianity ? The crest sure looks as a sun cross.
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Re: CMA/IMA in Kumamoto

Postby Ian C. Kuzushi on Tue Nov 07, 2017 7:31 am

Trick wrote:
Finny wrote:The Shimazu mon (crest) is reflective of that kinda scary-ness... it's a circle with a cross inside, apparently the horizontal line represents the enemy's sword which has been beaten down into the forehead by the JR practitioner's (vertical line)
actually I thought that kamon kind of referred to Christianity somehow, that area of Japan was maybe still is a supposed stronghold of Christianity ? The crest sure looks as a sun cross.


That is exactly in line with my current interpretation (and the established view of historians). Keep an eye out for a former colleague of mine from my late institution which I believe will argue the the influence and networks of Christianity of the sengoku period have been far underestimated.
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Re: CMA/IMA in Kumamoto

Postby Finny on Tue Nov 07, 2017 3:48 pm

Heh - perhaps the story I heard was a JR-centric story.. I know there were a number of ways in which christian Japanese gave a nod to their faith; tsuba, koshirae, and other accoutrements. I would be surprised to learn that the official mon of the ruling family would be one of them, but them satsuma folk were sure known to go their own way..
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