Chan Chiao / Combat Shuai Chiao

[edededed]

Some teachers really have never lost any matches...

Others just don't talk about the ones they did

[JAB]

Everybody who is anybody has lost sometime, somewhere.

[iwalkthecircle]

The CC E-class will include:

- Warm up
- Basic punches (include combos)
- Basic Kicks (include combos)
- Contact points
- Basic defense
- Entering strategy
- Equipment training
- 13 Taibo
- 24 solo forms (include both solo drills and 2 men drills)
- A long SC form that contain 13 Taibo and 24 solo forms (include combos - this form is designed for teaching and learning only. It's not designed for training)

Instead of working on punch in the 1st class, kick in the 2nd class, posture in the 3rd class, and throw in the 4th class. I'll try to move every parts forward in parallel. 24 Major throws are selected for the main part of this class. The locking skill and finish strategy may be included toward the end of this class depending on the progress of this class.

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Thanks John.
As for the comment on the Chinese...... dude....... have you met some of the Chinese teachers out there???? Everyone has won a buttload of "challenge matches" yet I rarely hear about anyone losing one

Jake

BTW i been very lucky all my chinese teachers really are badAss (tm)

[nianfong]

John, I just have to support what others have said--if Mr. Wang has an e-class on his own site, with no funding or benefit going to brian, then you will have more luck from us here.

personally, I could never recommend this to anyone if it will benefit brian. he has broken several clear agreements with the management here, and will do anything and say anything to benefit himself. Mr. Wang could find a far better business partner.

-Fong

[Buddy]

I must agree John. To support anything brian is involved in puts you in his league. Is that something you want? If so, I cannot be associated with you. He is still sending harassing and very personally insulting emails to a popular member here. Not me, he knows better. I'd have his hosting shut down. Host providers take this shit very seriously.


Buddy

[iwalkthecircle]

JW did offer his eClass on his website.
I believe not many people signed up for it.

I am not sure how much of the $20/month eClass fee goes to Brian.
it is not my call.

i just see this as a way to spread the SC gospel.
why not just start ef.com's own combat SC class by JW?

i really dont know what happen between Brain, Fong, Buddy, Jake on internet.....
i was in Taiwan at that time.
i have two kids that need me more than me reading all the old posts to find out.

uncleBuddy, i also know about him sending some letter to Luo/Beth when Marcus warned me.
I have told Marcus many times that the relationship between him(Marcus), and I are more important than chatting online (Brian).


I have ALWAYS appreciated Luo and MarcusB for how much they have shown me what is possible!!!!!!!


I dont wanna take sides, I am just focus on spreading SC gospel.
& if my BGZ is good I would do the same for BGZ.

[iwalkthecircle]

maybe if more people actually did sign up at Johnswang.com this whole thread might be moot.

John, I just have to support what others have said--if Mr. Wang has an e-class on his own site, with no funding or benefit going to brian, then you will have more luck from us here.

personally, I could never recommend this to anyone if it will benefit brian. he has broken several clear agreements with the management here, and will do anything and say anything to benefit himself. Mr. Wang could find a far better business partner.

-Fong

[Buddy]

John,
brian said some very disgusting and disturbing things about my family. That, in itself, is enough to show you what sort of person you are associating with. I'm done, you're an adult. But ask yourself this. Would you tolerate such things said about YOUR family? Would Mr. Wang? I think not.

[iwalkthecircle]

I dont wanna be dragged into this war between 2 sites.

I believe this war is not needed.
Like you said this feels like school yard baby politics.....
I grew out of it many years ago.


I dont think war promotes CMA like XYC, TCC, BGZ, and SC.
We all are together for the love of CMA and it is already a dying art.
Why fight each other at all.

Iwalk. Don't defend this situation please. It's not childish schoolboy antics. Just a reasonable display of boundries between adults.

Brian and Co broke off from us in a very specific and unfriendly way. It doesn't matter whether you're ad-ing for JW or you have friends on both sides of the fence or whatever. The fact of the matter is anything that you set up like that is designed to promote brians site by you linking to it or whatever business he gets out of it.

That's what they do. Steal other peoples good reputation for their benefit.

So, please just do the right thing. Don't link to .net here and if you are ad-ing for JW. Link it to JW and his website...or just don't post it here.

It's the right thing to do. Please understand that.

Best,

S

RE: "Steal other peoples good reputation for their benefit."

@S,
to be fair I thought often about someThing you said once "if you are nice to everyOne except the waitor, that still makes you a jerk."



@uncleBuddy,
what did Brian say about your family?
I don't believe dragging family into ef war is right thing either.
I don't know Brian very well, but malice to other family member is a new low.


i dont like to take sides or be in one team.
i dont believe in "if you are for him than you must be against me...."
just from my own family history with any "war", there are prob faults with both sides.
it is not fair to force me to pick sides.

i remember one time my dad asked me if i loved him or my mum more.
i told him i was hungry.


regards,
JH =)

[nianfong]

dude, by partnering with brian in a business endeavor, you are choosing sides.

Brian has broken many many fundamental clear agreements with the management here. In blatant disregard for anything but his own purposes. you will not get any warning to "watch out" for, except getting screwed by him.

-Fong

[JAB]

What Fong said X 2!!!
Spread as much of your teachers gospel as you can, but be aware that it will have certain concequence's in some cases.

[Chris Fleming]

I'll have to second the warnings mentioned here once again. The guy is toxic.

[Bhassler]

I respect everyone's good intentions in warning John (iWalk) of the potential risks of any business association with eF.com, however, it might be good to recognize that it's all hearsay from John's perspective, and saying that "if you associate with them you can't associate with me" is in fact quite unfair to John and doesn't do anyone any good. If you want to learn some good SC, sign up for the course, if not, we should probably all move on with our own lives and let go of the past.

[shawnsegler]

Not gonna happen. It's just like mod-ing the site. Someone comes in and is a fucker, then they're a fucker. We don't associate with that kind of energy. Straight up.

S- likes to think he's not a fucker.

[Bhassler]

Anyone who thinks iWalk is a fucker has got their priorities fucked up. And that's as straight up as it gets.

B-