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Postby Josealb on Wed Jul 09, 2008 5:59 pm

Li Tailiang's son, right? So hes been training since, well, all his life....give or take?

Thanks for the clip Jack.
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Re: mark li xinyidao

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Re: mark li xinyidao

Postby beegs on Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:39 pm

lookin good little bro!
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Re: mark li xinyidao

Postby mixjourneyman on Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:14 am

Good stuff.
Since I don't practice that style, I don't understand some of the body mechanics, but it looked really nice to me. He has good coordination and he's powerful while also maintaining flexibility. :)
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Re: mark li xinyidao

Postby beegs on Sun Jul 13, 2008 6:46 pm

Li Tailiang's son, right? So hes been training since, well, all his life....give or take?


this is so far from true,this also puts high expectations on him, it makes one think"he should be good", but thats not the case, he is good because of hard work on his own. He has had no more time with his father, than any other student.

I used to teach Mark in class, and he has improved ALOT, anyone in his area should look him up for lessons.
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Re: mark li xinyidao

Postby Josealb on Sun Jul 13, 2008 7:17 pm

Yeah, i suppose youre right beeqs. Everyone would teach their own son exactly the same as any other student.
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Re: mark li xinyidao

Postby beegs on Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:35 pm

Sorry for making a factual statement in relation to my own family with whom I live 5 minutes from and trained and hung out with often. What was I thinking :-\
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Re: mark li xinyidao

Postby CaliG on Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:40 pm

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Re: mark li xinyidao

Postby Dai Zhi Qiang on Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:51 pm

Josealb wrote:Yeah, i suppose youre right beeqs. Everyone would teach their own son exactly the same as any other student.



This is a interesting topic as I know masters who have openly admitted to me they wanted to withhold information to their students and only pass on certain things to their kin.

I am not saying this is the case with everyone, but in China I believe this would be rather common.

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Re: mark li xinyidao

Postby edededed on Mon Jul 14, 2008 12:50 am

It just depends on the teacher.

Many teachers will not withhold anything from their sons (or at least one of their sons). On the other hand, this does not mean that they won't be strict with them (i.e. you can't learn super-awesome-secret until after you finish A, B, and C). Still, being the son of a talented practitioner can't hurt :D
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Re: mark li xinyidao

Postby Shenquan on Mon Jul 14, 2008 1:02 am

In China I trained with a Chen Taiji master who openly admitted he was only going to teach the other style he knows to his sons so I guess Dai is right saying that in China this kind of culture could be pretty spread.
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Re: mark li xinyidao

Postby beegs on Mon Jul 14, 2008 6:24 am

china is a very different scenario.

In America, and especially in NY, both parents need to work just to try and survive, Gong Fu is not priority number one as it is in china

when people move out of china for their kids, the priority is usually in order to get their kids the best college education ,
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Re: mark li xinyidao

Postby CaliG on Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:26 am

That may be true but even outside of China family holds a higher status than tuidi.

Unless of course you marry into the family or are adopted into the family, in which case you are family.

I think the point Jose's point is that you generally wouldn't refer to your master's son as your little brother, even if he is.

(Not that I really care, just trying to help.)
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Re: mark li xinyidao

Postby DeusTrismegistus on Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:45 am

I would actually expect a good teacher to treat his son exactly the same as other students. The son should not feel privileged to be the son and should not be shown things other students wouldn't be shown unless they put in the time and effort to show that they really have the desire to learn the knowledge and to preserve it and not to take advantage of it.
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