Old School Tiger - Liang Ke Quan

[Andy_S]

RE: "Three Guys"
Goddamit. If only they'd had YouTube in those days.

[Wanderingdragon]

Don't try filming fights, have a fight, the mind is THE most brilliant YouTube.

[nianfong]

Notice he picked the biggest boy to demo on, while pushing 80...

corrected

[Josealb]

Dang.

All my grandparents, at 80, couldnt even get out of bed. Puts things in perspective.

[LDShouler]

Hey, my grandfather was still smashing concrete walls with a sledge hammer at the ripe old age of 90- a life long enthusiast of old school strength training and sheer mental endurance. Apart from genetics and luck, I think a continual desire to train plays a great factor in how we age.

[AllanF]

Does anyone know the Chinese characters for Liang Kequan?

[bailewen]

Not sure about that but I did go ahead and subtitle the entire clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9SxZ5JP2D0

You need to click on the little "cc" icon to turn the titles on.

Thanks to Jason and Michael for the software suggestions but it turns out all you need to create a subtitle file is a text editor and a VLC player to test the timing. It's still pretty grueling work though. A labor of love.

[bruce]

thanks omar

[nianfong]

yeah I was getting annoyed a the idiots translating for the class...haha
nice omar.

[bailewen]

So he was being hosted by John Bracey. The name rang a bell so I googled around and watch a lot of their other clops and I kind of like his stuff. The school looks pretty legit and Mr Liang gave some really wonderful praise to Mr. Bracey.

I wasn't so annoyed by the "idiots" as I was annoyed with Mr. Bracey because he kept talking over the parts that were the hardest for me to understand. It took me a dozen times listening to the Monkey part and I still couldn't quite get it without a little help from the wife. We decided it sounded like 猴有登山之力.

They were doing their best but were just plain not up to the job of translating anything more than really basic conversational Chinese. "Archaic Chinese" my ass. It was just a slightly more literary tone of voice (书面语) than regular slang. When he mistook 踩 for "tai" the mythical bird (don't know the character) that was the exact moment I decide the thing needed subtitles. At first I thought me meant 采 and was going to talk about qin na. At least they sound the same. Watching his movement though, I'm pretty sure me meant "stepping" because the next bunch of techniques were all based on trips and stuff like that.

[edededed]

Yeah... It did seem weird that Bracy never heard the word "koujue" before until that day... He did jump in suddenly and explain really excitedly when he thought he caught something he knew... including the part that he mistook as tai bird, as bailewen says

Many thanks to him for uploading the video, though!

[edededed]

Also, awesome subtitles from bailewen! Your Chinese is awesome

[Areios]

it would be better if they have filmed the apps and let the old man tell where and how to use it. It would be more beneficial then listening to him bashing teachers.

[marvin8]

A few updated videos.

Published on Jan 2, 2017
Master Liang Kequan teaches Hsing I's "Five Splitting Fists" to John Bracy's Hsing Chen students in Beijing, China 1993:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFpkdYz7I3s

Published on Aug 20, 2012
Late internal martial art master Liang KeQuan in an amazingly candid demonstration discusses correct ways to teach and study internal martial arts, and how most teachers are not teaching correctly. Video taped at John Bracy's Hsing Chen School in the late 1990s:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8Irk0anmCE

A few videos of John Bracy demonstrating applications. Warning: John Bracy has an unsavory past.

Published on Oct 12, 2016
ba gua close combat applications by Master John Bracy. horizontal and overhead views:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E68amlxYaFk

Published on Jun 13, 2016
Example of close combat training for Ba Gua and Tai Chi. Master John Bracy demonstrates technique which includes pressure point attack and "eliciting a response" to manipulate the opponent:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g63k7F_ogl8

Published on Jun 5, 2016
introduction and very brief demo of empty-full principles for close combat/self defense training in Tai Chi and the internal martial arts.
Empty-full combat video by Master John Bracy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-DvtxpAHYw

[Fa Xing]

Thanks Marin, I hadn't seen that one video of them training in Beijing like that. Liang Ke Quan is my grandteacher, Tim Cartmell studied quite regularly with "Uncle" Liang and in fact a lot of techniques come from Liang. Tim called Liang Kequan the best Xingyiquan fighter he'd ever met.

One should be aware, that while it's great that Bracy is posting these videos, after the seminar featured in the above video Mr. Bracy dumped Liang Ke Quan on a street corner in the middle of Orange County, CA. Luckily he was able to contact a Chinese family he knew, and as soon as Tim found out he went to check Liang. Mr Bracy is a dick and child molester.

That being said it's not see more vids, I've been told there are more, just have to get a hold of them .