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Re: Deep Butterfly Half for Graham & Pete

Postby fuga on Sun Jan 25, 2015 7:24 pm

Is it recent? Is there a link?
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Re: Deep Butterfly Half for Graham & Pete

Postby 100kilos on Sun Jan 25, 2015 11:38 pm

I think you guys might get a giggle out of this.

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Re: Deep Butterfly Half for Graham & Pete

Postby grzegorz on Mon Jan 26, 2015 12:08 am

fuga wrote:Is it recent? Is there a link?


I think you will really enjoy it Pete.

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Re: Deep Butterfly Half for Graham & Pete

Postby fuga on Tue Jan 27, 2015 7:37 pm

No gi goes to the lei tai. :D

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Re: Deep Butterfly Half for Graham & Pete

Postby GrahamB on Wed Jan 28, 2015 12:23 am

I always wonder if that's going to happen at Metamorris with the stupid raised stage.
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Re: Deep Butterfly Half for Graham & Pete

Postby GrahamB on Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:53 am

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Re: Deep Butterfly Half for Graham & Pete

Postby GrahamB on Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:56 am

Interesting critique. A little harsh I'd say - they guy came out on top, in a real situation, after all - but I think it's pretty fair overall.

http://www.onthemat.com/wordpress/henry ... map=%5B%5D

Video is in that link.
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Re: Deep Butterfly Half for Graham & Pete

Postby GrahamB on Thu Feb 05, 2015 8:22 am

So Henry trained under Rickson? There's a lot of his stuff on YouTube, like this. I like the little details he puts in. A lot of people say he's just on a different level to everybody else.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyItqgYbInQ



I'm watching that thinking he's leaving his arm exposed to a spinning armbar - what do you guys think?
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Re: Deep Butterfly Half for Graham & Pete

Postby Dmitri on Thu Feb 05, 2015 8:41 am

GrahamB wrote:I'm watching that thinking he's leaving his arm exposed to a spinning armbar - what do you guys think?

His hips/legs are way too far for that, keeping the weight down. To get an armbar he has to move up and forward a lot, so by the time he comes anywhere near the "spinning" part, there'd be more than enough time to respond.
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Re: Deep Butterfly Half for Graham & Pete

Postby GrahamB on Thu Feb 05, 2015 8:46 am

Dmitri wrote:
GrahamB wrote:I'm watching that thinking he's leaving his arm exposed to a spinning armbar - what do you guys think?

His hips/legs are way too far for that, keeping the weight down. To get an armbar he has to move up and forward a lot, so by the time he comes anywhere near the "spinning" part, there'd be more than enough time to respond.


I don't get what you mean.

"too far" what?

Up and forward?

I'm talking about him putting his arm in the ideal position for this to happen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wayMfTzdiY

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Re: Deep Butterfly Half for Graham & Pete

Postby fuga on Thu Feb 05, 2015 8:48 am

GrahamB wrote:Interesting critique. A little harsh I'd say - they guy came out on top, in a real situation, after all - but I think it's pretty fair overall.

http://www.onthemat.com/wordpress/henry ... map=%5B%5D

Video is in that link.


Just make sure you click that link for Henry's free videos ;) :P

Then you'll be safe as a tank.

I agree that the dude was sloppy and did some stuff that surprised me, but then again WTF is up with getting into a fight during a basketball game?
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Re: Deep Butterfly Half for Graham & Pete

Postby GrahamB on Thu Feb 05, 2015 8:53 am

fuga wrote:
GrahamB wrote:Interesting critique. A little harsh I'd say - they guy came out on top, in a real situation, after all - but I think it's pretty fair overall.

http://www.onthemat.com/wordpress/henry ... map=%5B%5D

Video is in that link.


Just make sure you click that link for Henry's free videos ;) :P

Then you'll be safe as a tank.

I agree that the dude was sloppy and did some stuff that surprised me, but then again WTF is up with getting into a fight during a basketball game?


Well some guys can get into a fight over anything - even Tai Chi ;)

Yeah, I thought the "click here for my free videos" link at the end did kind of undermine any credibility he had.... Still, a man got to eat...
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Re: Deep Butterfly Half for Graham & Pete

Postby Dmitri on Thu Feb 05, 2015 8:53 am

"too far" what?

top guy's hips too far from bottom guy's head

Up and forward?

up vertically (i.e. lift hips in air, even if a little), forward = towards the bottom guy's head

I'm talking about him putting his arm in the ideal position for this to happen:

in the second clip his knee is almost touching the guy's head and he's not putting as much of his weight down, as the guy in the first clip, whose torso is almost 45 degrees to the bottom guy's (vs 90 degrees in the second clip) and hips/torso very low
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Re: Deep Butterfly Half for Graham & Pete

Postby fuga on Thu Feb 05, 2015 8:59 am

Yeah, in the first clip, the guy on top was not mobile at all. He was not trying to advance position but just hold it.

Akin's move was to show what to do in that scenario. I am sure that he has a different solution for someone else more mobile on top.

Graham, don't be that "Well, what if..." guy! ;)
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Re: Deep Butterfly Half for Graham & Pete

Postby GrahamB on Thu Feb 05, 2015 9:00 am

Dmitri wrote:
"too far" what?

top guy's hips too far from bottom guy's head

Up and forward?

up vertically (i.e. lift hips in air, even if a little), forward = towards the bottom guy's head

I'm talking about him putting his arm in the ideal position for this to happen:

in the second clip his knee is almost touching the guy's head and he's not putting as much of his weight down, as the guy in the first clip, whose torso is almost 45 degrees to the bottom guy's (vs 90 degrees in the second clip) and hips/torso very low


Right, I see what you're saying - Atkins right arm is doing a strong job of blocking the guys hips (and keeping him at 45 degrees), preventing him moving around, or if he tries to, then giving him time to react.
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