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this is more fun

I thought this was very cool. Is this related to qing jin practice?

Yes, it's about integrated structure force and light skill.

Ken Fish taught me a similar exercise to this but going forward, if there is enough downward force to front and rear leg with expansive spring, if you release the front foot root, you spring forward. In the same way He LaoShr is doing backwards.

Now I need to work on going backwards

Thanks to He LaoShr for showing more great Ji Ben Gung training skills

thanks, it can move to left and right side also.

He LaoShr.....Geee thanks...now you have made it 10 times more difficult for me to practice...sideways as well...like going forwards was'nt hard enough to get

just have fun.

Dear Master He!

I have enjoyed all of your new videoes! The first one here helped me to understand the concept of hiding! Thanks!

Örs

"Just have fun". Honestly, I think that is one of the greatest advice any teacher could give their students. That is what effective learning is all about.

Nice work with the hou xing (monkey shape) btw.

ors wrote:Dear Master He!

I have enjoyed all of your new videoes! The first one here helped me to understand the concept of hiding! Thanks!

Örs

Yes, hiding is important esp. for women.

Bao wrote:"Just have fun". Honestly, I think that is one of the greatest advice any teacher could give their students. That is what effective learning is all about.
Nice work with the hou xing (monkey shape) btw.

Yes, some people " training " too hard to learn from their body.
that is "white app palm", glade you recognize it.

hejinghan wrote: that is "white app palm", glade you recognize it.

Well, the monkey, or white ape, is my very favourite bagua animal. Not for practice, but for real defence and real fighting. Keeping the arms together and elbows close to the body is really, really effective against grapplers and wrestlers. You dont give them anything to hold on to this way.

The apps of this bagua form is also very close to some of my favourite apps from taijiquan (from lan zha yi, Sun style closing form) and xingyi (from piquan, hengquan)

Oh, btw, I believe that Xie Peiqi said that in real fights he would always choose this animal.

Bao wrote:

hejinghan wrote: that is "white app palm", glade you recognize it.

Well, the monkey, or white ape, is my very favourite bagua animal. Not for practice, but for real defence and real fighting. Keeping the arms together and elbows close to the body is really, really effective against grapplers and wrestlers. You dont give them anything to hold on to this way.

The apps of this bagua form is also very close to some of my favourite apps from taijiquan (from lan zha yi, Sun style closing form) and xingyi (from piquan, hengquan)

Oh, btw, I believe that Xie Peiqi said that in real fights he would always choose this animal.

Bao, Thanks for spotting that in the clip.

This is from shijidong's 36 songs: 出手招招因人动，封闭对方最有功，步从三角转移灵，手取十字利化功
The last line talks about using the 'cross shape' or 'x'd up hands/forearms in order to 'cross' up the opponents. Most of bagua's animals have the back hand under the elbow to quickly move into the cross shape. The monkey though typically starts with the hands already in the cross shape (白猿献果 white ape offers the fruit posture), back hand in front of the front hand to get the opponent to mis-judge distance and also prevent an immediate counter, or "the back hand is the front hand, the front hand is the back hand". Monkey like in the clip likes to cross up the opponents arms (抱掌 bao zhang 'embracing palm') then use 蹲 'dun' squatting to attack/throw. An aspect of 蹲 'dun' can be described like jumping into a puddle with both feet trying to make a big splash, which explains some of the evil nature of the monkey, there is no taking it back, once it jumps in with both feet something is going to break.



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